Re: [PWE3] FW: New Liaison Statement, "Reply to IETF PWE3 Liaison ³SG15 opinion on draft-manhoudt-pwe3-tsop-01.txt Submission²"

Alexander Vainshtein <Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com> Thu, 04 October 2012 18:14 UTC

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From: Alexander Vainshtein <Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com>
To: "Malis, Andrew G (Andy)" <andrew.g.malis@verizon.com>
Thread-Topic: [PWE3] FW: New Liaison Statement, "Reply to IETF PWE3 Liaison ³SG15 opinion on draft-manhoudt-pwe3-tsop-01.txt Submission²"
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Subject: Re: [PWE3] FW: New Liaison Statement, "Reply to IETF PWE3 Liaison ³SG15 opinion on draft-manhoudt-pwe3-tsop-01.txt Submission²"
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Andy,
My impression after reading the liaison from Q13/15 is that they:
- are not interested enough to go into a detailed discussion
- see multiple synchronization issues with the proposal (even if these issues are listed very briefly).

Do you think I've missed something? Possibly because I am strongly biased against this draft?

Regards, and lots of thanks in advance,
     Sasha



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From: pwe3-bounces@ietf.org [pwe3-bounces@ietf.org] on behalf of Malis, Andrew G (Andy) [andrew.g.malis@verizon.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 7:56 PM
To: pwe3@ietf.org
Cc: Malis, Andrew G (Andy)
Subject: [PWE3] FW: New Liaison Statement, "Reply to IETF PWE3 Liaison ³SG15 opinion on draft-manhoudt-pwe3-tsop-01.txt Submission²"

This wasn't sent to the pwe3 exploder.

Cheers,
Andy

On 10/4/2012 12:24 , "Liaison Statement Management Tool" <lsmt@ietf.org>
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Title: Reply to IETF PWE3 Liaison ³SG15 opinion on
draft-manhoudt-pwe3-tsop-01.txt Submission²
Submission Date: 2012-10-03
URL of the IETF Web page: http://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1200/

From: ITU-T SG 15  (Greg Jones <greg.jones@itu.int>)
To: Pseudowire Emulation Edge to Edge (Matthew Bocci
<matthew.bocci@alcatel-lucent.com>, Andrew Malis
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