Re: [PWE3] Posting of IPR Disclosure related to Cisco's Statement of IPR relating to draft-ietf-pwe3-oam-msg-map-12
Yaakov Stein <yaakov_s@rad.com> Wed, 14 April 2010 07:44 UTC
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Subject: Re: [PWE3] Posting of IPR Disclosure related to Cisco's Statement of IPR relating to draft-ietf-pwe3-oam-msg-map-12
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This disclosure (1311) quotes application US20080089227A1: Protecting multi-segment pseudowires
which may impact draft-ietf-pwe3-redundancy, and perhaps ICCP, MS-PW architecture, and MS-PW setup.
There is no apparent connection with oam-msg-map - in fact the claims stress that
the triggers are failures of PSN elements (e.g. S-PEs) and are NOT from the ACs,
making any connection untenable.
A previous disclosure by the same company (863) refers to
20080285466 : Interworking between MPLS/IP and Ethernet OAM mechanisms
which may impact mpls-eth-oam-iwk, but not oam-msg-map,
unless one interprets the first claim and its dependents much more broadly
than supported by the background and description.
Can someone from the company claiming this IPR fix the information in these disclosures ?
At very least that company is required to disclose IPR is holds with respect to the appropriate drafts
(unless it is willing to risk forfeiting its rights with respect to these ...).
However, with respect to oam-msg-map I would like to request that it consider removing inappropriate disclosures.
Of course, if after consideration it believes that these disclosures ARE appropriate,
I would love to hear the reasoning.
Y(J)S
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Subject: Posting of IPR Disclosure related to Cisco's Statement of IPR relating to draft-ietf-pwe3-oam-msg-map-12
Dear Monique Morrow, Yaakov Stein, Luca Martini, Thomas Nadeau, Mustapha Aissaoui, David Allan, Peter Busschbach:
An IPR disclosure that pertains to your Internet-Draft entitled "Pseudowire (PW)
OAM Message Mapping" (draft-ietf-pwe3-oam-msg-map) was submitted to the IETF
Secretariat on 2010-04-07 and has been posted on the "IETF Page of Intellectual
Property Rights Disclosures" (https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1311/). The title
of the IPR disclosure is "Cisco's Statement of IPR relating to
draft-ietf-pwe3-oam-msg-map-12."
The IETF Secretariat
- Re: [PWE3] Posting of IPR Disclosure related to C… Yaakov Stein
- Re: [PWE3] Posting of IPR Disclosure related to C… Yaakov Stein
- [PWE3] Posting of IPR Disclosure related to Cisco… IETF Secretariat
- Re: [PWE3] Posting of IPR Disclosure related to C… Trowbridge, Stephen J (Steve)
- Re: [PWE3] Posting of IPR Disclosure related to C… Dean Willis
- Re: [PWE3] Posting of IPR Disclosure related to C… Donald Eastlake