Re: [PWE3] draft-jin-pwe3-cbit-negotiation-01
venkatesan mahalingam <venkatflex@gmail.com> Thu, 25 November 2010 13:34 UTC
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Hi, Option 1: Control Word Re-Negotiation by Label Request looks good to me. I think, it is not violating any LDP Downstream Unsolicited Label Advertisement by sending label request message from PE2. I think, we may have similar issue in status TLV negotiation also. Thanks, Venkat. - *To*: Ed <maillist.ed at gmail.com <maillist.ed@DOMAIN.HIDDEN>> - *Subject*: Re: [PWE3] draft-jin-pwe3-cbit-negotiation-01 - *From*: lizhong.jin at zte.com.cn <lizhong.jin@DOMAIN.HIDDEN> - *Date*: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 19:18:39 +0800 - *Cc*: vishwas at ipinfusion.com <vishwas@DOMAIN.HIDDEN>, pwe3 at ietf.org <pwe3@DOMAIN.HIDDEN>, thomas.nadeau at huawei.com<thomas.nadeau@DOMAIN.HIDDEN> - *Delivered-to*: pwe3 at core3.amsl.com <pwe3@DOMAIN.HIDDEN> - *In-reply-to*: <AANLkTim6e==d_P2suW14YRtTDM-9H_Zu_oWjd03oRASe at mail.gmail.com<AANLkTim6e%3D%3Dd_P2suW14YRtTDM-9H_Zu_oWjd03oRASe@DOMAIN.HIDDEN>> - *List-archive*: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/pwe3> - *List-help*: <mailto:pwe3-request@ietf.org?subject=help<pwe3-request@ietf.org?subject=help>> - *List-id*: Pseudo Wires Edge to Edge <pwe3.ietf.org> - *List-post*: <mailto:pwe3@ietf.org <pwe3@ietf.org>> - *List-subscribe*: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pwe3>, < mailto:pwe3-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe<pwe3-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>> - *List-unsubscribe*: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pwe3>, < mailto:pwe3-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe<pwe3-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>> ------------------------------ Hi Edward, See the comments in line. Thanks. Lizhong Ed <maillist.ed at gmail.com> wrote on 2010-11-25 08:47:30: > Hi Raymond, > > Option 1 seems to be simply to resignal the FEC - with the > corresponding traffic forwarding impact. Can PE2 send a new label > mapping with cbit=1 be sent without requiring label withdrawal > message and label request message, for example? [Lizhong] maybe not allowed, for this behavior will break existing CW negotiation mechanism. > > Also, does the the changing of the control word from PREFERRED to > non-PREFERRED need to be considered as well? [Lizhong] good idea, should be considered in next version. > > Thanks > > Regards, > Edward > > > On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 11:12 PM, Reshad Rahman (rrahman) <rrahman at cisco.com > > wrote: > I agree with Sami. Maybe the other options should be in appendix > with an explanation of why they were not chosen? > > Regards, > Reshad. > > From: pwe3-bounces at ietf.org [mailto:pwe3-bounces at ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Sami Boutros (sboutros) > Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 12:11 AM > To: Raymond Key; pwe3 at ietf.org > > Cc: thomas.nadeau at huawei.com; lizhong.jin at zte.com.cn; vishwas at ipinfusion.com > Subject: Re: [PWE3] draft-jin-pwe3-cbit-negotiation-01 > > I personally like option 1 in this draft, describing how to re- > enable control word via dynamic LDP signaling. > > However, you would need to clarify the steps more.. > saying in step 3 that PE2 MUST send a label request and in step 5 > that PE1 MUST respond to the label request with the configured CW > setting on PE1 which was set, as well in step 6 PE2 MUST wait for > PE1 label binding before sending it's label binding with CW set. > > As well, it may be good extending the flow chart described in > appendix A in rfc 4447 with option 1. > > Not sure, if it is worth mentioning the other options since they have issues. > > Option 2, how will we be able to re-enable CW? isn't that the issue > we are trying to fix? > > Option 3, This is avoiding to solve the problem. > > Option 4, I don't think this will fly. > > Thanks, > > Sami > At 01:53 AM 11/19/2010, Raymond Key wrote: > Hi PWE3 working group, > > In the recent IETF79, we have presented the draft "Pseudowire > Control Word Negotiation Mechanism Analysis and Update" > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-jin-pwe3-cbit-negotiation-01 > > This draft describes the problem of control word negotiation > mechanism specified in RFC4447. Based on the problem analysis, > possible solutions and their potential shortcomings are also discussed. > > The authors would like to have more feedback from the mailing list > before working on the next version. Grateful if you could review the > document and post comments on the mailing list. > > Thanks, > Raymond Key > _______________________________________________ > pwe3 mailing list > pwe3 at ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pwe3 > > > _______________________________________________ > pwe3 mailing list > pwe3 at ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pwe3
- [PWE3] draft-jin-pwe3-cbit-negotiation-01 Raymond Key
- Re: [PWE3] draft-jin-pwe3-cbit-negotiation-01 Sami Boutros
- [PWE3] draft-boutros-pwe3-mpls-tp-ms-pw-00 Sami Boutros
- Re: [PWE3] draft-jin-pwe3-cbit-negotiation-01 Reshad Rahman (rrahman)
- Re: [PWE3] draft-jin-pwe3-cbit-negotiation-01 lizhong.jin
- Re: [PWE3] draft-jin-pwe3-cbit-negotiation-01 Reshad Rahman (rrahman)
- Re: [PWE3] draft-jin-pwe3-cbit-negotiation-01 Ed
- Re: [PWE3] draft-jin-pwe3-cbit-negotiation-01 lizhong.jin
- Re: [PWE3] draft-jin-pwe3-cbit-negotiation-01 venkatesan mahalingam
- Re: [PWE3] draft-jin-pwe3-cbit-negotiation-01 Spike Curtis
- Re: [PWE3] draft-jin-pwe3-cbit-negotiation-01 lizhong.jin
- [PWE3] draft-boutros-pwe3-mpls-tp-mac-wd-01 Sami Boutros
- [PWE3] draft-boutros-pwe3-mpls-tp-mac-wd-01 Sami Boutros