Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] PING is reliably delivered (#2068)

MikkelFJ <notifications@github.com> Thu, 29 November 2018 20:31 UTC

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Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] PING is reliably delivered (#2068)
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If PING can randomly be retransmitted but does not have to, PING is useless to the application.

If PING is never retransmitted, the application can use that signal for its own purposes such as QoS montoring.

If PING is always retransmitted, the application can use that to make sure a connection stays alive by sending one once in a while.

I don't really care either way, as long is it is one or the other. The the missing alternative can be added later as a new frame if important enough.

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