Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Word-smithed version of Ted's resolution to #3842 from the mailing list (#3945)

Jana Iyengar <notifications@github.com> Thu, 13 August 2020 19:48 UTC

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>  immediately reset the congestion controller and round-trip time estimator for
 the new path to initial values (see Appendices A.3 and B.3 in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}})
-unless it has knowledge that a previous send rate or round-trip time estimate is
-valid for the new path.  For instance, an endpoint might infer that a change in
-only the client's port number is indicative of a NAT rebinding, meaning that the
-new path is likely to have similar bandwidth and round-trip time. However, this
-determination will be imperfect.  If the determination is incorrect, the
-congestion controller and the RTT estimator are expected to adapt to the new
-path.  Generally, implementations are advised to be cautious when using previous
-values on a new path.
+unless the only change is the other endpoint's port number.  Because

```suggestion
unless the only change in the peer's address is its port number.  Because
```

>  immediately reset the congestion controller and round-trip time estimator for
 the new path to initial values (see Appendices A.3 and B.3 in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}})
-unless it has knowledge that a previous send rate or round-trip time estimate is
-valid for the new path.  For instance, an endpoint might infer that a change in
-only the client's port number is indicative of a NAT rebinding, meaning that the
-new path is likely to have similar bandwidth and round-trip time. However, this
-determination will be imperfect.  If the determination is incorrect, the
-congestion controller and the RTT estimator are expected to adapt to the new
-path.  Generally, implementations are advised to be cautious when using previous
-values on a new path.
+unless the only change is the other endpoint's port number.  Because
+port-only changes are commonly the result of NAT rebinding or other middlebox
+activity, an endpoint MAY instead retain its congestion control state and

```suggestion
activity, the endpoint MAY instead retain its congestion control state and
```

>  immediately reset the congestion controller and round-trip time estimator for
 the new path to initial values (see Appendices A.3 and B.3 in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}})
-unless it has knowledge that a previous send rate or round-trip time estimate is
-valid for the new path.  For instance, an endpoint might infer that a change in
-only the client's port number is indicative of a NAT rebinding, meaning that the
-new path is likely to have similar bandwidth and round-trip time. However, this
-determination will be imperfect.  If the determination is incorrect, the
-congestion controller and the RTT estimator are expected to adapt to the new
-path.  Generally, implementations are advised to be cautious when using previous
-values on a new path.
+unless the only change is the other endpoint's port number.  Because

Yeah, I agree that it's consistent with the idea that the peer likely changed its attachment point. I don't think this makes a difference in practice, but it seems consistent with our principles here.

It does make it a bit more work to check, but it's not that hard.

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