Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Connection migration must be negotiated (#1271)

Praveen Balasubramanian <notifications@github.com> Fri, 06 April 2018 23:50 UTC

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Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Connection migration must be negotiated (#1271)
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@RyanAtGoogle, yes this is strictly about explicit peer-initiated migration. As I mentioned before we have two possible options for dealing with NAT-rebinding and we cannot negotiate that anyways since it happens outside the control of the peers. The two options are: use 2-tuple load balancing OR do keep-alives and use 4-tuple load balancing. Please see my response before Ian's above. We cannot incrementally deploy peer-initiated migration with existing infra as Ian also pointed out. 

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