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Re: Is "Version Greasing" a new benfit or a new obstacle?

Mikkel Fahnøe Jørgensen <mikkelfj@gmail.com> Fri, 12 April 2019 18:29 UTC

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Subject: Re: Is "Version Greasing" a new benfit or a new obstacle?
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"Each month of the Islamic calendar commences on the birth of the new lunar
cycle. Traditionally this is based on actual observation of the
crescent (*hilal
<https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/hilal#Noun>*) marking the end of the
previous lunar cycle and hence the previous month, thereby beginning the
new month. Consequently, each month can have 29 or 30 days depending on the
visibility of the moon, astronomical positioning of the earth and weather
conditions."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_calendar

I believe some sort of standardisation took place to accommodate electronic
calendars. I’m not familiar with the details, but I did have some coworkers
working on time algorithms in the S30 series (from the 3310 team) who had
been struggling with that problem.

Mikkel

On 12 April 2019 at 19.58.13, Dmitri Tikhonov (dtikhonov@litespeedtech.com)
wrote:

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 09:50:08AM -0700, Mikkel Fahnøe Jørgensen wrote:
> We had that problem at Nokia a long time ago. Mobile phones had problems
> adjusting the calendar in certain regions because local time was
dependent
> on people standing on hills looking at the moon. And sometimes it was
> cloudy.

I'd love to hear the full story! I googled "nokia phone adjust time
look at moon," [1] but nothing came up.

- Dmitri.

1. https://www.google.com/search?q=nokia+phone+adjust+time+look+at+moon

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