Re: Consensus call: Removing 0-length CIDs (Single Packet Number Space) From MPQUIC

Matt Joras <matt.joras@gmail.com> Thu, 12 January 2023 17:54 UTC

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From: Matt Joras <matt.joras@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2023 09:53:32 -0800
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Subject: Re: Consensus call: Removing 0-length CIDs (Single Packet Number Space) From MPQUIC
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Hello all,

Given the established consensus above and during IETF 115, the editors
intend to merge PR #149[1] to resolve this issue.

Best,
Lucas & Matt
QUIC WG Chairs

[1] https://github.com/quicwg/multipath/pull/149


On Wed, Nov 9, 2022 at 12:35 PM Rui Paulo <rpaulo@apple.com> wrote:

> I also support this change.
>
> On Nov 8, 2022, at 02:06, Matt Joras <matt.joras@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> At the IETF 115 the general issue[1] of 0-length CIDs in MPQUIC, which is
> to say, a single packet number space, was discussed and put to a poll. The
> results were overwhelmingly in support of  removal (53-2 out of 165), so as
> to simplify the document. This mail serves as the accompany consensus call
> to confirm the feelings of the room. This call will run for one week ending
> on November 15th.
>
> Best,
> Lucas & Matt
> QUIC WG Chairs
>
> [1] https://github.com/quicwg/multipath/issues/152
>
>
>