Re: Consensus call: Removing 0-length CIDs (Single Packet Number Space) From MPQUIC

Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com> Tue, 08 November 2022 12:58 UTC

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From: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2022 12:58:41 +0000
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Subject: Re: Consensus call: Removing 0-length CIDs (Single Packet Number Space) From MPQUIC
To: Tommy Pauly <tpauly=40apple.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
Cc: Ian Swett <ianswett=40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, Matt Joras <matt.joras@gmail.com>, IETF QUIC WG <quic@ietf.org>
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I support this change.

On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 12:58 PM Tommy Pauly <tpauly=
40apple.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

> I support this change as well.
>
> On Nov 8, 2022, at 3:04 AM, Ian Swett <ianswett=
> 40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>
> I support this change.
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 10:07 AM Matt Joras <matt.joras@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> At the IETF 115 the general issue[1] of 0-length CIDs in MPQUIC, which is
>> to say, a single packet number space, was discussed and put to a poll. The
>> results were overwhelmingly in support of  removal (53-2 out of 165), so as
>> to simplify the document. This mail serves as the accompany consensus call
>> to confirm the feelings of the room. This call will run for one week ending
>> on November 15th.
>>
>> Best,
>> Lucas & Matt
>> QUIC WG Chairs
>>
>> [1] https://github.com/quicwg/multipath/issues/152
>>
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