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Re: AD review : draft-ietf-quic-bit-grease-02

Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net> Thu, 12 May 2022 23:59 UTC

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Date: Fri, 13 May 2022 09:58:40 +1000
From: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
To: quic@ietf.org
Subject: Re: AD review : draft-ietf-quic-bit-grease-02
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On Fri, May 13, 2022, at 09:47, David Schinazi wrote:
> Oh. I hadn't realized that this allowed greasing handshake & 0-RTT.
> I think that's a great feature, but I might suggest mentioning it in as
> many words to avoid any confusion.

Fair.  Done.

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