Re: An Update about Chrome and IETF QUIC

Behcet Sarikaya <sarikaya2012@gmail.com> Wed, 21 October 2020 15:03 UTC

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From: Behcet Sarikaya <sarikaya2012@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2020 10:03:13 -0500
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Subject: Re: An Update about Chrome and IETF QUIC
To: David Schinazi <dschinazi.ietf@gmail.com>
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On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 12:40 PM David Schinazi <dschinazi.ietf@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> To follow up on my previous email, I just wanted to let everyone
> know that we've now ramped up h3-29 to over 90% of Chrome
> users. (We always keep a few percent of users running other
> versions of QUIC or TCP to compare performance.)
>
>
Good. So no interoperability issues?
Maybe because both receiver and sender software from the same manufacturer?

Behcet

> Cheers,
> David
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 9:49 AM David Schinazi <dschinazi.ietf@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi QUIC WG,
>>
>> We would like to share an important announcement from Chrome:
>>
>> https://blog.chromium.org/2020/10/chrome-is-deploying-http3-and-ietf-quic.html
>>
>> In particular, we'd like to highlight two points of interest to the WG:
>>
>> 1) Chrome now supports IETF QUIC by default (h3-29).
>>
>> 2) Since the subsequent IETF drafts 30 and 31 do not have
>> compatibility-breaking
>> changes, we currently are not planning to change the over-the-wire
>> identifier. What
>> this means is that while we'll keep tracking changes in the IETF
>> specification, we
>> will be deploying them under the h3-29/0xff00001d name. We therefore
>> recommend
>> that servers keep support for h3-29 until the final RFCs are complete if
>> they wish to
>> interoperate with Chrome. However, if the IETF were to make
>> compatibility-breaking
>> changes in a future draft, Chrome will revisit this decision.
>>
>> Full details in the link above.
>>
>> Cheers
>> David
>>
>