Re: Closing on CONNECTION_CLOSE
Christian Huitema <huitema@huitema.net> Fri, 28 July 2017 18:49 UTC
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On 7/28/2017 10:15 AM, Patrick McManus wrote: > I disagree a little bit with (I think) Subodh and Wily regarding what > to send when you recv data after you have sent a CLOSE. I want to > strongly encourage implementations to have a TIME_WAIT like period of > being able to a fully protected CLOSE (it can be a memcpy retransmit). > public reset ought to be left as a last resort. As Subodh pointed out, "TIME_WAIT exists in TCP is to protect us from the local port being re-bound to another connection and the data from the old connection interfering with the new connection." We don't have that constraint of old packets resurfacing 30 seconds later and interfering with a new data flow. Encryption protects against that. The "waiting" or "draining" period would mostly be a courtesy to the peer, to ensure that the CLOSE frame is well received, and that the peer actually stops sending. The normal duration of the draining period would be "sufficiently more than 1 RTT". With the current spec, the closer knows that the CLOSE has not been received yet if it keeps receiving packets from the peer. This should normally last for 1 RTT after sending the CLOSE frame. If it receives any packets more than 1 RTT after sending the CLOSE, it can assume that the CLOSE frame was not received. It would make sense to resend it then. Of course, there is a question of how long to wait after 1 RTT. Probably "some time depending on the application". We could be tempted to specify acknowledgements, etc. But then we have to remember the two generals... -- Christian Huitema
- Closing on CONNECTION_CLOSE Eric Rescorla
- Re: Closing on CONNECTION_CLOSE Ian Swett
- Re: Closing on CONNECTION_CLOSE Christian Huitema
- Re: Closing on CONNECTION_CLOSE Subodh Iyengar
- Re: Closing on CONNECTION_CLOSE Eric Rescorla
- Re: Closing on CONNECTION_CLOSE Willy Tarreau
- RE: Closing on CONNECTION_CLOSE Swindells, Thomas (Nokia - GB/Cambridge, UK)
- Re: Closing on CONNECTION_CLOSE Ian Swett
- Re: Closing on CONNECTION_CLOSE Eric Rescorla
- Re: Closing on CONNECTION_CLOSE Jana Iyengar
- Re: Closing on CONNECTION_CLOSE Eric Rescorla
- Re: Closing on CONNECTION_CLOSE Dmitri Tikhonov
- Re: Closing on CONNECTION_CLOSE Patrick McManus
- Re: Closing on CONNECTION_CLOSE Christian Huitema
- Re: Closing on CONNECTION_CLOSE Mikkel Fahnøe Jørgensen