WGLC comments on draft-ietf-radext-tunnel-type-00.txt
"Glen Zorn" <glenzorn@comcast.net> Tue, 25 November 2008 19:03 UTC
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From: Glen Zorn <glenzorn@comcast.net>
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Subject: WGLC comments on draft-ietf-radext-tunnel-type-00.txt
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 10:58:39 -0800
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I was the first to comment on this draft, the day it came out; apparently, however, my comments were lost in the flurry of positive comments from unrecognized (by me) people with Yahoo! email addresses (I suppose that MSN would have been too obvious ;-) so I'll try again. The title is so vague as to be meaningless: suggest changing to the extremely unwieldy "A RADIUS Tunnel Type for IP Encapsulating Security Payload (ESP) in the Tunnel-mode with IKEv2" or some such thing (see below), w/an appropriate abbreviation for the second & following pages. The document allocates two tunnel types but briefly discusses only one of them; the other, proprietary to Microsoft Corporation, receives no attention whatsoever. Were we not supposed to notice that it was there? This is a problem because RFC 2868 states that new Tunnel-Type values are to be assigned using the "IETF Consensus" policy (note that RFC 2868 is specifically _not_ updated by RFC 3575). RFC 5226 says IETF Review - (Formerly called "IETF Consensus" in [IANA-CONSIDERATIONS]) New values are assigned only through RFCs that have been shepherded through the IESG as AD- Sponsored or IETF WG Documents [RFC3932] [RFC3978]. The intention is that the document and proposed assignment will be reviewed by the IESG and appropriate IETF WGs (or experts, if suitable working groups no longer exist) to ensure that the proposed assignment will not negatively impact interoperability or otherwise extend IETF protocols in an inappropriate or damaging manner. Given that there is no discussion whatsoever of Microsoft SSTP in this document, I can't see how anyone could judge from reading it whether the proposed assignment will "negatively impact interoperability or otherwise extend IETF protocols in an inappropriate or damaging manner" or not. As I mentioned in my original review, the best solution would be to separate the Microsoft proprietary stuff into another document, both documenting SSTP and allocating a Tunnel-Type value for it. The only reference given for SSTP is to a Microsoft marketing Web site. -- to unsubscribe send a message to radiusext-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: <http://psg.com/lists/radiusext/>
- Review of draft-tiwari-radext-tunnel-type-02.txt David B. Nelson
- RE: Review of draft-tiwari-radext-tunnel-type-02.… Bernard Aboba
- Re: Review of draft-tiwari-radext-tunnel-type-02.… Nagesh Vankayala
- RE: Review of draft-tiwari-radext-tunnel-type-02.… Abhishek Tiwari
- RE: Review of draft-tiwari-radext-tunnel-type-02.… Glen Zorn
- RE: Review of draft-tiwari-radext-tunnel-type-02.… Bernard Aboba
- RE: Review of draft-tiwari-radext-tunnel-type-02.… Abhishek Tiwari
- RE: Review of draft-tiwari-radext-tunnel-type-02.… David B. Nelson
- RE: Review of draft-tiwari-radext-tunnel-type-02.… Abhishek Tiwari
- RE: Review of draft-tiwari-radext-tunnel-type-02.… David B. Nelson
- WGLC comments on draft-ietf-radext-tunnel-type-00… Glen Zorn
- RE: WGLC comments on draft-ietf-radext-tunnel-typ… David B. Nelson
- RE: WGLC comments on draft-ietf-radext-tunnel-typ… Glen Zorn
- RE: WGLC comments on draft-ietf-radext-tunnel-typ… Abhishek Tiwari
- Re: WGLC comments on draft-ietf-radext-tunnel-typ… Greg Weber
- Review of draft-tiwari-radext-tunnel-type-02.txt Abhishek Tiwari
- RE: Review of draft-tiwari-radext-tunnel-type-02.… Dave Nelson
- RE: Review of draft-tiwari-radext-tunnel-type-02.… Abhishek Tiwari (NETWORKING)