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Re: [RAM] A curious Internet service offering

Roland Dobbins <rdobbins@cisco.com> Thu, 03 January 2008 10:47 UTC

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On Jan 3, 2008, at 6:38 PM, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:

> Does it? Do we really want to cripple our protocols just because a  
> few ignorant service providers feel like filtering in a certain way?

No, but that seems to be the trend, for a number of reasons.

> (Note though that inferior protocol selection already happens to  
> some degree: RTSP isn't doing so well these days, more and more  
> stuff is streamed over HTTP because RTSP is firewall and NAT  
> unfriendly.)

As I mentioned before, this kind of thing is very common in enterprise  
networks, and is actually viewed as highly desirable by many in that  
space, as well as by those interested in establishing walled gardens  
in other arenas for various reasons (IMS, etc.).

While this is a timely issue, and one it's obvious many of us feel  
strongly about, it's probably way off-topic for RAM, however.

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