Re: [Rats] A note on consensus

Dave Thaler <dthaler@microsoft.com> Fri, 03 June 2022 18:22 UTC

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From: Dave Thaler <dthaler@microsoft.com>
To: Ned Smith <ned.smith@intel.com>, "rats@ietf.org" <rats@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Rats] A note on consensus
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FYI, the draft is now RFC 7282 which is the official version.

Dave

From: RATS <rats-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Smith, Ned
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Subject: [Rats] A note on consensus

There is a draft defining consensus [1] that does a pretty good job of explaining that rough consensus is when all issues are addressed but not necessarily accommodated. If a WG is split over an issue, even if there are only a few who disagree, that can be an indication of lack of consensus. Those ono the other side of an issue should accept raised issues as requests to address the issues.

I interpret recent list activity that points to issues in the archive as someone believes an issue previously raised has not (yet) been addressed (and could also mean not yet accommodated). Specific issues raised should be responded to specifically in terms of how the issue is addressed. If an issue remains that isn't addressed, then consensus might not be achieved.

The WG should suggest ways to address all raised issues.

[1] On Consensus and Humming in the IETF<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftools.ietf.org%2Fid%2Fdraft-resnick-on-consensus-01.html%23rfc.section.3&data=05%7C01%7Cdthaler%40microsoft.com%7C6aa8d25726a54bbc1eb008da458d8e8b%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637898771877380362%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=8H0ZjPNMdRInEzSBfhyEau1VdsZq%2BFa%2BRpZ8IJeNeqo%3D&reserved=0>