[Rats] IETF 102 Remote Attestation Procedures (RATS) Bar BoF Invite

Henk Birkholz <henk.birkholz@sit.fraunhofer.de> Thu, 05 July 2018 21:58 UTC

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From: Henk Birkholz <henk.birkholz@sit.fraunhofer.de>
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Hi *,

Diego and I are planning to find (or create) an appropriate place for 
remote attestation related work in the IETF with a Bar BoF as a first step.


Some context:

In essence, remote attestation procedures are a tool-set that is 
intended to increase the confidence that an entity other entities 
interact with is a trusted system.

Remote attestation typically is tied to a type of trust anchor or 
shielded secret, which is - in a sense - a tad bit exotic in the scope 
of protocols developed in the IETF as those exist and operate "inside 
the box". In contrast, most IETF solutions operate "between boxes". 
While remote attestation procedures require both parts in order to 
provide a value, appropriate network protocols to convey corresponding 
information between boxes are still very much work in progress.


The Plan:

To create appropriate protocols and architectures, unfortunately, is not 
a trivial task. In order to find out how this "non-trivial" thing can be 
talked about and how to do that constructively in the IETF, we would 
like to invite you to a Bar BoF.

The minimum goal is to talk about what remote attestation means 
(semantic), what parts of it would belong in the IETF (scope), how to 
align existing work and how to provide a basis for future work 
(solution). Even better, if we would be able to agree in some of these 
areas and flock together.

As a first proposal, we are planning the Bar BoF for:

*Thursday July 17th, in the evening*
(exact time TBD, but we think at or after dinner)

There is a fine Bar at the Venue. So, the current plan is to meet there, 
in order to make it easier to attend. But we will also scout for an 
appropriate bar when we are on-site. Also, we would like to encourage 
you to "bring a +1" in case you know other individuals, who would be 
interested in this topic.


Some references of the work in this space that is scattered all over the 
IETF:

> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-pastor-i2nsf-nsf-remote-attestation/
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-birkholz-i2nsf-tuda/
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mandyam-eat/
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mandyam-tokbind-attest/
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-birkholz-reference-ra-interaction-model/
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-birkholz-yang-basic-remote-attestation/
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-birkholz-attestation-terminology/

There also is the rats@ietf.org list (as you can see in the email 
header) and a place at github (https://github.com/ietf-rats).


All that said, we would welcome you to drop by and are looking forward 
to a lively discussion.


Best regards,

Diego & Henk