Re: [Rats] IETF 102 Remote Attestation Procedures (RATS) Bar BoF Invite

[Henk Birkholz <[e-mail]>]

And let us all not forget...

My claims lack the trustworthiness remote attestation would provide:

It is Thursday July *19th*, in the evening.

(someone pointed out that mismatch to me implicitly by checking for 
availability in Tuesday...)

Ergo, please consider joining us on *Thursday, July 19th* in Montreal :)


Viele Grüße,

Henk


On 07/06/2018 05:01 PM, Diego R. Lopez wrote:
> OK. I must say I was not aware of the EAT work. I'll try to be there. All in all, as Henk says, there are several aspects related to attestation that deserve attention, and I think it is good we discuss them with a reasonable degree of autonomy. How this would coalesce in the future is matter for further discussion.
> 
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> On 06/07/2018, 07:17, "Hannes Tschofenig" <[e-mail]> wrote:
> 
>      Hi Henk,
> 
>      I fear you missed that Lawrence and I already reserved a room for a meeting about the attestation work we proposed. Here is the mail:
>      https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/eat/current/msg00005.html
> 
>      Ciao
>      Hannes
> 
> 
>      -----Original Message-----
>      From: Henk Birkholz [mailto:[e-mail]]
>      Sent: 05 July 2018 23:52
>      To: DIEGO LOPEZ GARCIA; Xialiang (Frank); Hannes Tschofenig; Jessica Fitzgerald-McKay; Dave Waltermire; Banghart, Stephen A. (Fed); Shwetha Bhandari (shwethab); Bill Sulzen (bsulzen); Eric Voit (evoit); Giridhar Mandyam; Laurence Lundblade; ANTONIO AGUSTIN PASTOR PERALES; Mr. Ned Smith
>      Cc: Laffey, Tom (HPE Networking ATG); Guy Fedorkow; 'Wiseman, Monty (GE Global Research, US)'; Nancy Cam-Winget (ncamwing); Michael Eckel; [e-mail]
>      Subject: IETF 102 Remote Attestation Procedures (RATS) Bar BoF Invite
> 
>      Hi *,
> 
>      Diego and I are planning to find (or create) an appropriate place for
>      remote attestation related work in the IETF with a Bar BoF as a first step.
> 
> 
>      Some context:
> 
>      In essence, remote attestation procedures are a tool-set that is
>      intended to increase the confidence that an entity other entities
>      interact with is a trusted system.
> 
>      Remote attestation typically is tied to a type of trust anchor or
>      shielded secret, which is - in a sense - a tad bit exotic in the scope
>      of protocols developed in the IETF as those exist and operate "inside
>      the box". In contrast, most IETF solutions operate "between boxes".
>      While remote attestation procedures require both parts in order to
>      provide a value, appropriate network protocols to convey corresponding
>      information between boxes are still very much work in progress.
> 
> 
>      The Plan:
> 
>      To create appropriate protocols and architectures, unfortunately, is not
>      a trivial task. In order to find out how this "non-trivial" thing can be
>      talked about and how to do that constructively in the IETF, we would
>      like to invite you to a Bar BoF.
> 
>      The minimum goal is to talk about what remote attestation means
>      (semantic), what parts of it would belong in the IETF (scope), how to
>      align existing work and how to provide a basis for future work
>      (solution). Even better, if we would be able to agree in some of these
>      areas and flock together.
> 
>      As a first proposal, we are planning the Bar BoF for:
> 
>      *Thursday July 17th, in the evening*
>      (exact time TBD, but we think at or after dinner)
> 
>      There is a fine Bar at the Venue. So, the current plan is to meet there,
>      in order to make it easier to attend. But we will also scout for an
>      appropriate bar when we are on-site. Also, we would like to encourage
>      you to "bring a +1" in case you know other individuals, who would be
>      interested in this topic.
> 
> 
>      Some references of the work in this space that is scattered all over the
>      IETF:
> 
>      > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-pastor-i2nsf-nsf-remote-attestation/
>      > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-birkholz-i2nsf-tuda/
>      > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mandyam-eat/
>      > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mandyam-tokbind-attest/
>      > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-birkholz-reference-ra-interaction-model/
>      > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-birkholz-yang-basic-remote-attestation/
>      > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-birkholz-attestation-terminology/
> 
>      There also is the [e-mail] list (as you can see in the email
>      header) and a place at github (https://github.com/ietf-rats).
> 
> 
>      All that said, we would welcome you to drop by and are looking forward
>      to a lively discussion.
> 
> 
>      Best regards,
> 
>      Diego & Henk
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