Re: [Rats] EAT IANA registry

Yaron Sheffer <yaronf.ietf@gmail.com> Sun, 24 November 2019 10:55 UTC

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Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2019 12:54:57 +0200
From: Yaron Sheffer <yaronf.ietf@gmail.com>
To: Laurence Lundblade <lgl@island-resort.com>
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Hi Laurence,

 

Yes, such profiles would certainly be helpful for attestation. 

 

Unfortunately they would not solve the fundamental problem that a developer who wishes to use JWT for anything, not necessarily attestation, is faced with a registry that he or she has no chance of figuring out.

 

Thanks,

                Yaron

 

From: Laurence Lundblade <lgl@island-resort.com>
Date: Saturday, November 23, 2019 at 18:29
To: Yaron Sheffer <yaronf.ietf@gmail.com>
Cc: Hannes Tschofenig <Hannes.Tschofenig@arm.com>, "rats@ietf.org" <rats@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Rats] EAT IANA registry

 

One of our thoughts is that EAT profiles will help with this. For example, a special profile for toasters might list 5 claims that must be included in every attestation and 10 claims that are optional and maybe even prohibit all others.

 

LL

 



On Nov 22, 2019, at 6:57 AM, Yaron Sheffer <yaronf.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Hi Hannes,

 

Looking at the JWT claim IANA registry [1], it is already a terrible mess of several different standards, obviously with many more coming. I guess what’s done is done, and I’ll take back my objection.

 

Thanks,

                Yaron

 

[1] https://www.iana.org/assignments/jwt/jwt.xhtml#claims

 

From: Hannes Tschofenig <Hannes.Tschofenig@arm.com>
Date: Friday, November 22, 2019 at 14:17
To: Yaron Sheffer <yaronf.ietf@gmail.com>, "rats@ietf.org" <rats@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: EAT IANA registry

 

Yaron, 

Could you explain why you think that this is a good idea? 

Ciao

Hannes

 

From: RATS <rats-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Yaron Sheffer
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 2:05 PM
To: rats@ietf.org
Subject: [Rats] EAT IANA registry

 

Unrelated to my earlier mail, I would recommend to create a separate registry for EAT claims (I suppose that implies a nested object in the JWT/CWT) rather than to overload the CWT registry. Architecturally it just doesn’t jive to have all these claims as baseline CWT claims, and process-wise, it’s much more convenient for this group to control its own namespace.

 

Sorry if this has been raised before.

 

Thanks,

                Yaron

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