Re: [Rats] [EXTERNAL] Re: EAT IANA registry

[Yaron Sheffer <[e-mail]>]

To put it into perspective, there are already 57 claims registered [1]. So even if 7 claims overlap, this is a relatively *small* number. IMO there is high value in a separate namespace for EAT claims, and the standard way to create such a namespace in JSON is exactly as Ben is proposing.

 

Thanks,

                Yaron

 

[1] https://www.iana.org/assignments/jwt/jwt.xhtml

 

From: Laurence Lundblade <[e-mail]>
Date: Wednesday, November 27, 2019 at 06:39
To: Benjamin Kaduk <[e-mail]>
Cc: Mike Jones <Michael.Jones=[e-mail]>, Yaron Sheffer <[e-mail]>, "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>, Hannes Tschofenig <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [Rats] [EXTERNAL] Re: EAT IANA registry

 

 

On Nov 26, 2019, at 7:19 PM, Benjamin Kaduk <[e-mail]> wrote:

 

...but I'm not sure that "avoiding duplicates"
would apply to a proposal that makes a single JWT/CWT claim for "EAT data"
and puts the attestation claims in a map as the value for that "EAT data"
claim.  What existing JWT/CWT claims would duplicate the potential contents
of the EAT data fields?

 

That is an interesting thought — put all of EAT into one JWT/CWT claim that is a map. Other’s have mentioned it to me. It would let EAT re use the most compact integer CBOR integer labels.

 

Right now we re use the following claims from JWT or CWT by normative reference:

- nonce

- Token ID cti/jti

- Time stamp (iat)

 

Also these JWT or CWT seem either likely or possible use in EAT:

- cnf (proof of possession of key)

- iss Issuer

- expiration

- not before

 

That’s a fairly large overlap which makes me disinclined to putting all of EAT into one map that is one JWT/CWT claim, separating EAT claims from CWT/JWT claims.

 

I’m no OAuth expert, but I wonder if some of the EAT claims might be useful for other than EAT tokens, another reason not to keep them separate.

 

I suspect we’re going to find at least one more use for a signed map of label-value pairs in the next few years that would be able to re use at least some of these claims — another reason to keep them in the same space.

 

LL