Re: [Rats] Entity vs. role

Thomas Fossati <tho.ietf@gmail.com> Wed, 23 March 2022 08:45 UTC

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From: Thomas Fossati <tho.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2022 08:45:20 +0000
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Subject: Re: [Rats] Entity vs. role
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hi Laurence

On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 8:31 PM Laurence Lundblade
<lgl@island-resort.com> wrote:
> Miss having you here in Vienna.

next year in Jerusalem :-)

> And RATS architecture doesn’t care about what’s in AP for AR and shouldn’t care about it. We’re only mentioning AP for AR for the sake of completeness. We’re not going to put any requirements on it or say anything more about it than it exists, right? Hope that right.

I think the only important thing that the architecture implies is that
the AP for AR needs to understand the AR format.  Other than that I
don't think there are any further requirements.

cheers,
-- 
Thomas