Re: [Rats] Entity vs. role

Laurence Lundblade <lgl@island-resort.com> Thu, 24 March 2022 10:45 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Rats] Entity vs. role
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It seems to me now that we need to sort out some of these use cases a little better as Henk suggested in the room in Vienna.

> On Mar 23, 2022, at 1:54 PM, Eric Voit (evoit) <evoit@cisco.com> wrote:
> 
> From: Laurence Lundblade, March 23, 2022 4:03 AM
> ...
>  
> Ironic in a way — I want to forward/passthrough Evidence in Results, you are forwarding/passingthrough Results in Evidence :-)
>  
> <eric> It is not me that puts Results in Evidence.  It is the definitions in the architecture document which requires it *must* be specified this way.

5.1 describing the passport model does not imply or require (or preclude) two verifiers. 

Section 5.1 does not require that AR be embedded in a new AE message when sent from the device to the RP. It puts no requirements on that transmission. I don’t think it even Requires the Results be relayed by something that has security properties.

None of the examples in section 16 work this way. 

I think the design is a fine and good, but I don’t see it in my read of the architecture document. (I searched for occurrences of “passport”). Apologies in advance if I’ve missed something in the architecture document.

LL