Re: [Rats] New RATS

Simon Frost <Simon.Frost@arm.com> Wed, 01 June 2022 07:35 UTC

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From: Simon Frost <Simon.Frost@arm.com>
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Subject: Re: [Rats] New RATS
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Ned
> The RATS Arch doesn’t use the term ‘Attestee’…
That’s a typo, thanks for pointing it out, I’ll change it to Attester.

> I didn’t see a reference to DEB objects. Could that be included?
DEB objecta are included, but not deeply discussed because I’ve not really seen a use case for them yet. There is a reference to DEBs as collection entries both in the text and the CDDL


> Should a $$EAT-CBOR-Tagged-Token or $$EAT-CBOR-Untagged-Token be signed for integrity protection – for example using COSE/JOSE?

I’m not sure I fully understand the question, but I don’t think that all tokens require a top level signer, for reasons expressed in this doc (and in UCCS).



Thanks for the review

Simon

From: Smith, Ned <ned.smith@intel.com>
Sent: 31 May 2022 18:18
To: Simon Frost <Simon.Frost@arm.com>; rats@ietf.org
Cc: Thomas Fossati <Thomas.Fossati@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [Rats] New RATS

Simon,
A couple of comments. The RATS Arch doesn’t use the term ‘Attestee’. Would it be appropriate to use ‘Attester’ or possibly ‘Target Environment’ if the objective is to refer to the environment (object) from which claims are collected by an ‘Attesting Environment’?

I didn’t see a reference to DEB objects. Could that be included?


Should a $$EAT-CBOR-Tagged-Token or $$EAT-CBOR-Untagged-Token be signed for integrity protection – for example using COSE/JOSE?



Thanks,

Ned


From: RATS <rats-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:rats-bounces@ietf.org>> on behalf of Simon Frost <Simon.Frost@arm.com<mailto:Simon.Frost@arm.com>>
Date: Monday, May 30, 2022 at 4:34 AM
To: "rats@ietf.org<mailto:rats@ietf.org>" <rats@ietf.org<mailto:rats@ietf.org>>
Cc: Thomas Fossati <Thomas.Fossati@arm.com<mailto:Thomas.Fossati@arm.com>>
Subject: [Rats] New RATS

FYI. I’ve just submitted a new draft for a proposed extension to the top level object in EAT.

There’s a full justification in the doc, but as a quick summary, there are difficulties in creating a top level ‘envelope’ object for a multi-token system while remaining compatible with EAT. Given the recent move to fix the list of top level objects but embrace extensions, this approach seems to be an appropriate proposal.

See: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-frost-rats-eat-collection/ & https://github.com/SimonFrost-Arm/draft-frost-rats-eat-collection

Thanks
Simon

Simon Frost
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