Re: [Raven] Comments on Draft -- Take 2
Ed Stone <estone@synernet.com> Mon, 07 February 2000 20:26 UTC
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Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 15:10:59 -0500
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From: Ed Stone <estone@synernet.com>
Subject: Re: [Raven] Comments on Draft -- Take 2
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At 02:47 PM 2/7/2000 , you wrote: >I think it is more accurate to say that the IETF has determined that the >lack of tapability in strong encryption is not a problem. One does not >need to fix something that is not broken. It has been my understanding that the wiretap issue addressed by this process is separate and apart from any encryption issues. Specifically, it excludes matters related to encryption of the contents that may be intercepted by wiretaps, as I understand it. >Ed Stone wrote: > > > > At 01:35 PM 2/7/2000 , chefren wrote: > > > > >Late? The proposed text has nothing to do with a solution > > >for the real problem. We still have to start... > > > > IETF has decided NOT to start. See the draft. > > > > >The decision-maker, IETF, has made standards for a long > > >time happily with little or even no interference with laws. > > >Unfortunately(!) that has ended. The current stuborness of > > >IETF may well be described as childish... > > > > The draft states IETF's position. Do you have contributions to the > > definition of wiretapping or the rationale? > > > > -- > > -------------------------- > > Ed Stone > > estone@synernet.com > > -------------------------- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > raven mailing list > > raven@ietf.org > > http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/raven > >-- >--------.--------------------------------------. > ------/ Christian Price / > ----/ Technical Solutions Consultant / > ---/ Four Corners Area ITOT/OSA / > --/ SprintParanet, Phoenix Office / > -/ 602-266-9242 / > '--------------------------------------' > >_______________________________________________ >raven mailing list >raven@ietf.org >http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/raven -- -------------------------- Ed Stone estone@synernet.com -------------------------- _______________________________________________ raven mailing list raven@ietf.org http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/raven
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