Re: [Raw] [EXT] Terminology: draft-ietf-raw-architecture-14.txt and what's still nuclear

"Dr. Corinna Schmitt" <corinna.schmitt@unibw.de> Mon, 31 July 2023 06:43 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Raw] [EXT] Terminology: draft-ietf-raw-architecture-14.txt and what's still nuclear
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Reads very well with the changes.



Am 30.07.23 um 22:38 schrieb Pascal Thubert (pthubert):
>
> Dear all:
>
> the publication of 14 adds terminologies and typos. The goal is to 
> serve as the new reference for the WGLC so we can use the new terms in 
> our discussions. If someone still uses PSE and Track, well, I guess 
> we'll still understand for a little while, but he will be harshly 
> reprimanded.
>
> What I did not do yet though I started is work out the positioning of 
> the aCPF (the component that talks asynchronously to the rCPF == PCE 
> to report performance and get route updates), the Point of Local 
> Repair (PLR is the term that replaces the PSE) and the OAM supervisor 
> that triggers OAM and aggregates results for the PLR.
>
> These are 3 new architectural blocks, and we want to position them 
> well in the DetNet architecture.
>
> The DetNet architecture (section 4.4) has 3 planes that are mapped to 
> classical SDN, with the controller plane in the middle, a southbound 
> interface to the network plane (in the case of RAW used between rCPF 
> and aCPF) and a northbound interface to the Application Plane.
>
> The Controller plane has the typical route servers like PCEs, and 
> network management entities. In the SDN model they are "far away" and 
> monitor the whole network. Which is what causing the RAW issue of lack 
> of reactivity and pushed us to port functionality in the network 
> plane. In networking planes parlance, the PCE is control plane and the 
> NMEs are management plane.
>
> As we see, though the term controller plane looks like control plane, 
> they are different beasts. A classical IGP is a control plane function 
> that operates in the DetNet network plane. The controller plane hosts 
> controllers, which physically may embed routing and management 
> entities. In the DetNet architecture, "The Controller Plane 
> corresponds to the aggregation of the Control and Management Planes in 
> [RFC7426 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7426>], though 
> Common Control and Measurement Plane (CCAMP) (as defined by the CCAMP 
> Working Group [CCAMP 
> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/ccamp/charter/>]) makes an additional 
> distinction between management and measurement."
>
> In my book, the OAM supervisor, the aCPF and the PLR operate in the 
> control plane. The OAM supervisor talks to the OAM handlers in the 
> management plane. And all of the above being distributed in the 
> network, they operate in the DetNet Network plane.  So 1) we extend 
> the DetNet architecture to place functional blocks in the Network 
> Plane and 2) one could say we need 3D pictures to represent the 
> intersection of the DetNet planes and the traditional control and 
> management planes. While the data plane remains firmly in the Network 
> plane.
>
> Now this is my view and the way I intend to update the text to publish 
> 15, hopefully quite soon. But I need confirmation that we are on the 
> same line, or else debates to reach a consensus.
>
> What do you all think?
>
> Pascal
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *De :* internet-drafts@ietf.org <internet-drafts@ietf.org>
> *Envoyé :* samedi 29 juillet 2023 15:40
> *À :* Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <pthubert@cisco.com>
> *Objet :* New Version Notification for draft-ietf-raw-architecture-14.txt
>
> A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-raw-architecture-14.txt
> has been successfully submitted by Pascal Thubert and posted to the
> IETF repository.
>
> Name:           draft-ietf-raw-architecture
> Revision:       14
> Title:          Reliable and Available Wireless Architecture
> Document date:  2023-07-29
> Group:          raw
> Pages:          43
> URL: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-raw-architecture-14.txt
> Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-raw-architecture/
> Html: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-raw-architecture-14.html
> Htmlized: 
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-raw-architecture
> Diff: 
> https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-ietf-raw-architecture-14
>
> Abstract:
>    Reliable and Available Wireless (RAW) provides for high reliability
>    and availability for IP connectivity across any combination of wired
>    and wireless network segments.  The RAW Architecture extends the
>    DetNet Architecture and other standard IETF concepts and mechanisms
>    to adapt to the specific challenges of the wireless medium, in
>    particular intermittently lossy connectivity.  This document defines
>    a network control loop that optimizes the use of constrained spectrum
>    and energy while maintaining the expected connectivity properties,
>    typically reliability and latency.  The loop involves OAM, DetNet
>    Controller Plane, and PREOF extensions, and specifically a new
>    recovery Function called PAREO and a new Point of Local Repair
>    operation, that dynamically selects the DetNet path(s) for the future
>    packets to route around local degradations and failures.
>
>
>
>
> The IETF Secretariat
>
>
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