Re: [Raw] [Detnet] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-raw-architecture-11

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From: "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" <pthubert@cisco.com>
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Hello Lou;

For the term tracks I believe we spent half the London meeting on just that item with the group in the room and settled to what we have now. It is not track vs protection path. A track is a collection of protection paths. We cannot keep reopening the subject.

For the other terms I’m fully open to discussion and have no objection converging the SL definitions with TEAS, happy to work that out along your recommendations.

For PSE and aCPF, they are functions that RAW adds incrementally to DetNet. How can they collide? What would be the equivalent protection functionality defined elsewhere?

Regards,

Pascal

Le 21 juil. 2023 à 15:58, Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> a écrit :



Hi,

I'm going to fail to get all my comments in by today's deadline, but will write them on on the plane tomorrow.  They are going to build on my previous comments sent to the RAW list that were never fully addressed in [1] and in previous sessions.

The big one is alignment of terminology of the document with the rest of DetNet/TE, including (for example):
    Track vs protection path
    RAW SLA/SLO/SL vs TEAS definitions
    aCPF/PSE vs  detnet  (and other WG) protection terminology

Others include description of DetNet domains that span wireless (RAW) and wired networks, and operation of RAW over wireless networks defined by outside of IETF (which may or may not support DLEP).

I'll send more  tomorrow.

Thanks,

Lou

[1] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/raw/1czSAxtRt94lpv_KZPGb5N3l3ko/

On 6/23/2023 1:11 PM, Eve Schooler wrote:

All,

This starts working group last call on draft-ietf-raw-architecture-11
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-raw-architecture/<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-detnet-pof/>

The working group last call ends on Friday, July 21st, the Friday before IETF 117.
Please send your comments to the working group mailing list.

Two IPR disclosures have been made for this document thus far (in tandem with WGLC, in a separate e-mail, we will solicit all co-authors/contributors for any additional disclosures).

All comments, e.g., "I've reviewed this document and believe it is ready for publication", are welcome.
This is useful and important, even from authors.


In preparation for the transition of the RAW WG to roll back into the DetNet WG, we are issuing this as a joint WGLC to both WGs.

Thank you,
Eve (RAW Co-Chair & doc Shepherd)

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