[regext] Re: [Ext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-registry-epp-00 (Ends 2025-10-27)
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From: Gavin Brown <gavin.brown@icann.org>
To: "Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck=40verisign.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [Ext] [regext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-registry-epp-00 (Ends 2025-10-27)
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Subject: [regext] Re: [Ext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-registry-epp-00 (Ends 2025-10-27)
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Hi Scott, > On 6 Nov 2025, at 12:25, Hollenbeck, Scott <shollenbeck=40verisign.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: James Galvin <galvin@elistx.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2025 4:41 PM >> To: Hollenbeck, Scott <shollenbeck@verisign.com> >> Cc: Gould, James <jgould@verisign.com>; kowalik@denic.de; andy@hxr.us; >> draft-ietf-regext-ext-registry-epp@ietf.org; regext@ietf.org >> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [regext] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-registry- >> epp-00 (Ends 2025-10-27) >> >> Caution: This email originated from outside the organization. Do not click links >> or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is >> safe. >> >> Having been reflecting on this further there is one element for which I would >> appreciate some additional discussion. >> >>> We want to update the draft to explicitly disallow the registration of Internet- >> Drafts or other "works in progress". Reference specifications should be >> considered "final", though they can be updated using the change process >> described in the draft. >> >> This concerns me because it seems to suggest that implementations of early >> versions of a final specification would be prevented from being able to >> “register” a specification. >> >> Is this intended (which I don’t think I could support) or am I misunderstanding >> something? > > [SAH] Jim, the issue with trying to register an Internet-Draft is described here: > > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/regext/lP6AqBTfkHwOb9Wx0HT2EGgSbsE/ > > In short, we can't register drafts AND require URI registration in the IETF XML Registry. Maybe we can be creative and add the URIs to the EPP extension registry so they don't have to be added to the XML registry. Perhaps we could stop using urn:ietf: URIs in Internet-Drafts. This is something I suggested in Madrid: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/123/materials/slides-123-regext-review-of-the-epp-extension-registry-01#page=8 G. -- Gavin Brown Principal Engineer, Global Domains & Strategy Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) https://www.icann.org
- [regext] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-regi… James Galvin via Datatracker
- [regext] Re: [Ext] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regex… Gavin Brown
- [regext] Re: [Ext] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regex… Mario Loffredo
- [regext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-… Hollenbeck, Scott
- [regext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-… kowalik
- [regext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-… Hollenbeck, Scott
- [regext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-… kowalik@denic.de
- [regext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-… Andy Newton
- [regext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-… Andy Newton
- [regext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-… Hollenbeck, Scott
- [regext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-… Gould, James
- [regext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-… Hollenbeck, Scott
- [regext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-… Thomas Corte (TANGO support)
- [regext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-… Gould, James
- [regext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-… Andy Newton
- [regext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-… Pawel Kowalik
- [regext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-… Andy Newton
- [regext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-… Hollenbeck, Scott
- [regext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-… Andy Newton
- [regext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-… Gould, James
- [regext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-… Hollenbeck, Scott
- [regext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-… Hollenbeck, Scott
- [regext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-… Hollenbeck, Scott
- [regext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-… Thomas Corte (TANGO support)
- [regext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-… Pawel Kowalik
- [regext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-… Gould, James
- [regext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-… Pawel Kowalik
- [regext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-… Hollenbeck, Scott
- [regext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-… Andy Newton
- [regext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-… Pawel Kowalik
- [regext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-… Gould, James
- [regext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-… Andy Newton
- [regext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-… Hollenbeck, Scott
- [regext] Re: [Ext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-r… Gould, James
- [regext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-… Hollenbeck, Scott
- [regext] Re: [Ext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-r… Gavin Brown
- [regext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-… Andy Newton
- [regext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-… Pawel Kowalik
- [regext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-… James Galvin
- [regext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-… James Galvin
- [regext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-… James Galvin
- [regext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-… Hollenbeck, Scott
- [regext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-… Gould, James
- [regext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-… Thomas Corte (TANGO support)
- [regext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-… Gould, James
- [regext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-… Hollenbeck, Scott
- [regext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-… Hollenbeck, Scott
- [regext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-… Andy Newton
- [regext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-… Gould, James
- [regext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-… James Galvin
- [regext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-… Hollenbeck, Scott
- [regext] Re: [Ext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-r… Gavin Brown
- [regext] Re: [Ext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-r… Gavin Brown
- [regext] Re: [Ext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-r… Hollenbeck, Scott
- [regext] Re: [Ext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-r… Gavin Brown
- [regext] Re: [Ext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-r… Pawel Kowalik
- [regext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-… James Galvin
- [regext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-… Andy Newton
- [regext] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-regext-ext-… Hollenbeck, Scott