Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-tmch-func-spec-00.txt
Gustavo Lozano <gustavo.lozano@icann.org> Fri, 15 July 2016 19:02 UTC
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From: Gustavo Lozano <gustavo.lozano@icann.org>
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Subject: Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-tmch-func-spec-00.txt
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Colleagues, I think it¹s worth mentioning that a new version of the Matching Rules document has been published at: * https://newgtlds.icann.org/en/about/trademark-clearinghouse/matching-rules-1 4jul16-en.pdf I will publish a new version of draft-ietf-regext-tmch-func-spec referencing the new Matching Rules document once the I-D submission tool is reopened. Regards, Gustavo From: regext <regext-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Gustavo Lozano <gustavo.lozano@icann.org> Date: Friday, June 17, 2016 at 15:13 To: James Galvin <galvin@elistx.com> Cc: "regext@ietf.org" <regext@ietf.org>, Patrik Fältström <paf@frobbit.se> Subject: Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-tmch-func-spec-00.txt > Jim and Patrick, > > I thought provided a response to your questions, but if not,, please let me > know specific issues and I will try to address them promptly. > > > Let me try to explain the approach of the draft. > > > The Trademark Validator (TMV) implements an algorithm > (https://newgtlds.icann.org/en/about/trademark-clearinghouse/matching-rules-24 > sep12-en.pdf ) to translate a trademark into one or more (permutations are > possible) A-labels or NR-LDH labels (i.e. potential labels for registration > and/or protection), which I added as a normative reference in my draft. The > potential labels for registration and/or protection are included in the SMD, > sunrise and claims lists. > > During the sunrise period, a registry needs to validate that the domain name > being allocated is included in the list of potential labels for registration > within the SMD. > > During claims, a registry needs to validate the assertion that the Registrar > showed a claims notice if the domain name being allocated is included in the > claims list. > > The RPM requirements document > (https://newgtlds.icann.org/en/about/trademark-clearinghouse/rpm-requirements- > 30sep13-en.pdf ) defines the requirements in case of IDN variants: > "During the Claims Period, if Registry Operator has established IDN variant > policies for Allocation of domain names in the TLD, Registry Operator must > check all labels in a variant set against the Domain Name Label List before > any domain names in the set are registered. " > > People may not agree with the algorithm used by the TMV, but this document was > defined in the context of the new gTLD program. Even if the algorithm were to > be updated, the specification defined in my draft continues to be the same, > because it uses the output of the algorithm as a black box. > > The matching rules document is now part of the "Normative References", and it > is mentioned in the Glossary, in order to allow a reader to understand the > complete picture of the TMCH/TMDB model, but a developer (TMDB, Registry or > Registrar) of this draft should be able to implement the requirements without > knowing about the [MatchingRules]. > > > Regards, > Gustavo > > On 6/17/16, 06:36, "James Galvin" <galvin@elistx.com> wrote: > >> Gustavo, >> >> Unfortunately, as Patrik noted, the document needs a normative reference >> to a matching algorithm. You have stated that you will bring that to >> the attention of the appropriate ICANN folks, but I do not see how this >> document can move forward without that. >> >> It is a technical issue and affects interoperability, which makes a >> resolution essential. >> >> I¹m interested in other opinions but I do not believe this document >> can move forward without this. >> >> Jim >> >> >> >> On 16 Jun 2016, at 19:35, Gustavo Lozano wrote: >> >>> Dear chairs, working group, >>> >>> >>> I have not received any further comments on the draft >>> (draft-ietf-regext-tmch-func-spec). >>> >>> >>> I think that version 01 of the draft >>> (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-regext-tmch-func-spec-01) >>> is ready for publication. >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Gustavo >>> >>> >>> >>> On 6/3/16, 11:50, "James Galvin" <galvin@elistx.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I want to remind the working group that we have the following >>>> unresolved >>>> comments regarding draft-ietf-regext-tmch-func-spec. We need to >>>> address >>>> these comments before this document can move forward. >>>> >>>> And please note that draft-ietf-regext-launchphase is dependent on >>>> this >>>> document. It is ready for publication but can not move forward until >>>> we >>>> can move both it and tmch-func-spec together. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Jim >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 23 Apr 2016, at 1:53, Patrik Fältström wrote: >>>> >>>>> Comments (some of this can also be fund in SSAC document SAC-060 23 >>>>> July 2013): >>>>> >>>>> 1. It is not clear how permutations of strings are to be calculated >>>>> (by whom, and how) in the case confusability risks might arise. For >>>>> example by the use of language tables or other mechanisms like LGRs. >>>>> >>>>> 2. The term "leftmost" is a bit confusing when talking about labels >>>>> in >>>>> DNS. I propose using "first" as in logical order. >>>>> >>>>> 3. The matching algorithm is not described, who is implementing it >>>>> etc. >>>>> >>>>> 4. There are no instructions on how to handle cases where the >>>>> matching >>>>> algorithm in TMCH is different from matching algorithm one "expect" >>>>> ("one" as in the trademark holder). >>>>> >>>>> Patrik >>>>> >>>>> On 22 Apr 2016, at 22:39, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >>>>>> directories. >>>>>> This draft is a work item of the Registration Protocols Extensions >>>>>> of >>>>>> the IETF. >>>>>> >>>>>> Title : ICANN TMCH functional specifications >>>>>> Author : Gustavo Lozano >>>>>> Filename : draft-ietf-regext-tmch-func-spec-00.txt >>>>>> Pages : 60 >>>>>> Date : 2016-04-22 >>>>>> >>>>>> Abstract: >>>>>> This document describes the requirements, the architecture and >>>>>> the >>>>>> interfaces between the ICANN Trademark Clearinghouse (TMCH) and >>>>>> Domain Name Registries as well as between the ICANN TMCH and Domain >>>>>> Name Registrars for the provisioning and management of domain names >>>>>> during Sunrise and Trademark Claims Periods. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >>>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-regext-tmch-func-spec/ >>>>>> >>>>>> There's also a htmlized version available at: >>>>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-regext-tmch-func-spec-00 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of >>>>>> submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at >>>>>> tools.ietf.org. >>>>>> >>>>>> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >>>>>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> I-D-Announce mailing list >>>>>> I-D-Announce@ietf.org >>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce >>>>>> Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html >>>>>> or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> regext mailing list >>>>> regext@ietf.org >>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/regext >>
- Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-tmch-f… Gustavo Lozano
- Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-tmch-f… Patrik Fältström
- Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-tmch-f… James Galvin
- Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-tmch-f… Gustavo Lozano
- Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-tmch-f… Gustavo Lozano
- [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-tmch-func-… internet-drafts
- Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-tmch-f… Patrik Fältström
- Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-tmch-f… James Galvin
- Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-tmch-f… Roger D Carney
- Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-tmch-f… Gustavo Lozano
- Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-tmch-f… Gustavo Lozano
- Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-tmch-f… Patrik Fältström
- Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-tmch-f… Gustavo Lozano
- Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-tmch-f… Gustavo Lozano
- Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-tmch-f… Patrik Fältström
- Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-tmch-f… Gustavo Lozano
- Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-tmch-f… Gustavo Lozano
- Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-tmch-f… Patrik Fältström
- Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-tmch-f… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-tmch-f… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-tmch-f… Patrik Fältström
- Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-tmch-f… Patrik Fältström
- Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-tmch-f… Marc Blanchet
- Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-tmch-f… Peter Koch
- Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-tmch-f… Gould, James
- Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-tmch-f… Gustavo Lozano
- Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-tmch-f… Gustavo Lozano
- Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-tmch-f… Gustavo Lozano
- Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-tmch-f… Patrik Fältström
- Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-tmch-f… Alissa Cooper