Re: [regext] WGLC: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-regext-change-poll

"Gould, James" <jgould@verisign.com> Fri, 19 January 2018 17:47 UTC

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From: "Gould, James" <jgould@verisign.com>
To: "Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com>, "'galvin@elistx.com'" <galvin@elistx.com>, "'regext@ietf.org'" <regext@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [EXTERNAL] Re: [regext] WGLC: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-regext-change-poll
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Subject: Re: [regext] WGLC: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-regext-change-poll
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Scott,

I can add text describing the "name" and "op" attributes in draft-ietf-regext-change-poll as being ASCII identifiers to clarify this.  
  
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On 1/19/18, 12:24 PM, "Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com> wrote:

    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Gould, James
    > Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 12:02 PM
    > To: Hollenbeck, Scott <shollenbeck@verisign.com>; 'galvin@elistx.com'
    > <galvin@elistx.com>; 'regext@ietf.org' <regext@ietf.org>
    > Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [regext] WGLC:
    > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-regext-change-poll
    >
    > Scott,
    >
    > Thank you for your review and feedback.  I provide my answers to the
    > feedback below.
    >
    > —
    >
    > JG
    >
    >
    >
    > James Gould
    > Distinguished Engineer
    > jgould@Verisign.com
    >
    > 703-948-3271
    > 12061 Bluemont Way
    > Reston, VA 20190
    >
    > Verisign.com <http://verisigninc.com/>
    >
    > On 1/18/18, 12:16 PM, "regext on behalf of Hollenbeck, Scott" <regext-
    > bounces@ietf.org on behalf of shollenbeck@verisign.com> wrote:
    >
    >     > -----Original Message-----
    >     > From: regext [mailto:regext-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of James
    > Galvin
    >     > Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 8:29 AM
    >     > To: Registration Protocols Extensions <regext@ietf.org>
    >     > Subject: [EXTERNAL] [regext] WGLC:
    > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-
    >     > ietf-regext-change-poll
    >     >
    >     > The document editors have indicated that the following document is
    > ready
    >     > for submission to the IESG to be considered for publication as a
    > Proposed
    >     > Standard:
    >     >
    >     > Change Poll Extension for the Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP)
    >     > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-regext-change-poll-06
    >
    >     Comments:
    >
    >     There probably shouldn't be any normative language in the abstract.
    > Please change "MAY" to "may".
    >
    > Done
    >
    >     Section 3.1.2: does the name attribute for the "custom" case
    > identifier have an i18n considerations?
    >
    > No, this matches the use of the “name” attribute of the “custom” phase in
    > draft-ietf-regext-launchphase and the use of the “op” attribute of the
    > “custom” operation in draft-ietf-regext-change-poll.  In this case as with
    > the other cases, these are custom identifiers that don’t have i18n
    > considerations.
    
    I'm not sure I agree with that. This is what I see in the Schema from 
    draft-ietf-regext-launchphase:
    
         <complexType name="phaseType">
           <simpleContent>
             <extension base="launch:phaseTypeValue">
               <attribute
                 name="name"
                 type="token"/>
             </extension>
           </simpleContent>
         </complexType>
    
    The value associated with a "name" attribute is an XML Schema token data type. 
    These are strings. If an attribute value like "mañana"(<changePoll:caseId 
    name="mañana">custom</changePoll:caseId>) is legit, isn't there a need for a 
    language tag? If not, maybe some more text is needed (in multiple documents, 
    perhaps) to explain that these identifiers are not intended to be 
    human-readable character strings and only ASCII characters should be used. If 
    character limitations are needed it would be worth exploring how to enforce 
    that restriction in the schema.

    
    >     Section 5.1: The title of this section is "XML Namespace", but it
    > seems to be conflating a registration request for an XML namespace and the
    > XML Schema described in Section 4. I'm going to recommend registering both
    > the namespace and the schema in the same way it's done in, for example,
    > RFC 5731.
    >
    > I went ahead and revised the IANA Considerations section to match RFC 5731
    > and draft-ietf-regext-launchphase.
    
    Thanks. All good!
    
    Scott