Re: [regext] draft-ietf-regext-rdap-geofeed-02 Review Feedback

"Gould, James" <jgould@verisign.com> Mon, 01 April 2024 16:30 UTC

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From: "Gould, James" <jgould@verisign.com>
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Jasdip,

I don’t see an issue with removing the redaction section from draft-ietf-regext-rdap-geofeed, since I believe the use of redaction is a policy decision for a server.

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From: Jasdip Singh <jasdips@arin.net>
Date: Monday, April 1, 2024 at 12:12 PM
To: "Andrew Newton (andy)" <andy@hxr.us>
Cc: James Gould <jgould@verisign.com>, "regext@ietf.org" <regext@ietf.org>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [regext] draft-ietf-regext-rdap-geofeed-02 Review Feedback


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Hi Andy,

Thanks for your feedback. One comment below.

Jasdip

From: Andrew Newton (andy) <andy@hxr.us>
Date: Monday, April 1, 2024 at 11:42 AM
To: Jasdip Singh <jasdips@arin.net>
Cc: Gould, James <jgould@verisign.com>, regext@ietf.org <regext@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [regext] draft-ietf-regext-rdap-geofeed-02 Review Feedback
> I recommend including a registration of the "Geofeed links" redacted "name" in the RDAP JSON Values registry with the "redacted name" type field.  If registered, the "description" member can be changed to a "type" member.
>
> [JS] Good idea. Will do.

Is this really necessary? Under what conditions will a network
operator be publishing this public CSV file that then requires an RIR
to redact the link to it?

[JS] I guess we were pre-emptively trying to tackle redaction for geofeed links :) but your point about such files already being public seems to make redaction unnecessary here.

Question for the WG: Are we ok with removing redaction from the RDAP Geofeed draft?