Re: [renum] IPv4 deployment scenarios to minimise renumbering costs

"Templin, Fred L" <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com> Sat, 04 December 2010 00:04 UTC

Return-Path: <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com>
X-Original-To: renum@core3.amsl.com
Delivered-To: renum@core3.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F047B3A69D8 for <renum@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 3 Dec 2010 16:04:12 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -6.431
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.431 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.168, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id e1xl0l+kTthh for <renum@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 3 Dec 2010 16:04:11 -0800 (PST)
Received: from slb-smtpout-01.boeing.com (slb-smtpout-01.boeing.com [130.76.64.48]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B23F28C16E for <renum@ietf.org>; Fri, 3 Dec 2010 16:04:04 -0800 (PST)
Received: from blv-av-01.boeing.com (blv-av-01.boeing.com [130.247.48.231]) by slb-smtpout-01.ns.cs.boeing.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/8.14.4/SMTPOUT) with ESMTP id oB405DA4003157 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Fri, 3 Dec 2010 16:05:14 -0800 (PST)
Received: from blv-av-01.boeing.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by blv-av-01.boeing.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/DOWNSTREAM_RELAY) with ESMTP id oB405BSB009003; Fri, 3 Dec 2010 16:05:12 -0800 (PST)
Received: from XCH-NWHT-06.nw.nos.boeing.com (xch-nwht-06.nw.nos.boeing.com [130.247.25.110]) by blv-av-01.boeing.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/UPSTREAM_RELAY) with ESMTP id oB4059VC008953 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=OK); Fri, 3 Dec 2010 16:05:10 -0800 (PST)
Received: from XCH-NW-01V.nw.nos.boeing.com ([130.247.64.97]) by XCH-NWHT-06.nw.nos.boeing.com ([130.247.25.110]) with mapi; Fri, 3 Dec 2010 16:05:09 -0800
From: "Templin, Fred L" <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com>
To: Fred Baker <fred@cisco.com>, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2010 16:05:08 -0800
Thread-Topic: [renum] IPv4 deployment scenarios to minimise renumbering costs
Thread-Index: AcuTOmjeVyq8bVP0QDWIj3haVIb4twACl/dQ
Message-ID: <E1829B60731D1740BB7A0626B4FAF0A65C67565C59@XCH-NW-01V.nw.nos.boeing.com>
References: <EBE6787B-849F-49A1-A467-84C18F52FE10@gmail.com><4CF96B11.8020405@gmail.com> <4D7C4B77-1AC5-4DC5-B1D4-FDB36259CA7C@cisco.com>
In-Reply-To: <4D7C4B77-1AC5-4DC5-B1D4-FDB36259CA7C@cisco.com>
Accept-Language: en-US
Content-Language: en-US
X-MS-Has-Attach:
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
acceptlanguage: en-US
x-tm-as-product-ver: SMEX-10.0.0.1412-6.500.1024-17806.001
x-tm-as-result: No--43.855100-0.000000-31
x-tm-as-user-approved-sender: Yes
x-tm-as-user-blocked-sender: No
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
MIME-Version: 1.0
Cc: RJ Atkinson <rja.lists@gmail.com>, "renum@ietf.org" <renum@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [renum] IPv4 deployment scenarios to minimise renumbering costs
X-BeenThere: renum@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9
Precedence: list
List-Id: "Renumbering discussion mailing list." <renum.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/renum>, <mailto:renum-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/renum>
List-Post: <mailto:renum@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:renum-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/renum>, <mailto:renum-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2010 00:04:13 -0000

> ...and therefore think of 
> itself as PI, while allowing all of its upstreams to treat it 
> as PA and aggregate routing accordingly.

What's that? Someone said "PI", and Teco didn't even jump
in with a disparaging remark?

You all are talking about various solution ways forward
all the while telling me to pipe down. You really ought
to go have a look at IRON, RANGER, VET and SEAL.

Here is the lastest in the series, called "Provider-
Managed IRON", which I think you will see strikes a
happy balance between PI and PA:

http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-templin-iron-pm-00.txt

Fred
fred.l.templin@boeing.com

> _______________________________________________
> renum mailing list
> renum@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/renum
>