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Re: [rfc-i] First v3 RFC is published - RFC 8651 on Dynamic Link Exchange Protocol (DLEP) Control-Plane-Based Pause Extension

Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> Mon, 07 October 2019 21:06 UTC

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From: Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>
To: Heather Flanagan <rse@rfc-editor.org>, IETF discussion list <ietf@ietf.org>, RFC Interest <rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org>
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Subject: Re: [rfc-i] First v3 RFC is published - RFC 8651 on Dynamic Link Exchange Protocol (DLEP) Control-Plane-Based Pause Extension
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On 07.10.2019 22:58, Julian Reschke wrote:
> On 07.10.2019 22:00, Heather Flanagan wrote:
>> Wow, everyone. We did it!
>>
>> Thank you all for years and years of effort in getting us to this
>> point. RFC 8651 is now the first RFC to be published in the v3 format.
>>
>> As those of you on the xml2rfc list know, there are still heated
>> discussions underway about some aspects of the XML vocabulary. Getting
>> the -bis documents out to capture the reality of the v3 format is
>> critically important. That is in the top 3 priorities for me as I wrap
>> up my time as RSE (the other two are operational transition items and
>> the RFC Model process discussion).
>>
>> I particularly want to thank the RPC staff. They have worked
>> incredibly hard to fill the roles of expert copyeditors, quality
>> assurance engineers, and key stakeholders throughout the seven years
>> (and counting) of the RFC format project. This is an amazing team.
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Heather Flanagan, RSE
>> ...
>
> So, as far as I can tell, <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8651.xml> -
> which is supposed to be the canonical format - does not conform to the
> V3 grammar (neither the one from RFC 7991, nor what's in the unpublished
> RFC 7991bis):
>
> ...

Also, running the XML through an alternative processor (rfc2629.xslt)
yields:

> ERROR: user-supplied boilerplate differs from auto-generated boilerplate (inserting auto-generated) (at line 6)

...which is no surprise as the generated TOC is contained in the
<boilerplate> element, where it has no reason to be.

I understand that the V3 format is work-in-progress, but whatever the
state is, there should be at least one version of the format's grammar
that the published XML conforms to.

Best regards, Julian
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