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Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> Fri, 08 October 2021 07:01 UTC

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On 8. Oct 2021, at 03:14, Paul Duffy (paduffy) <paduffy@cisco.com> wrote:
> 
> Possible thread hijack, apologies if so.
> 
> Has anyone confirmed the SVG output from websequencediagrams.com?

I haven’t done that, but kramdown-rfc supports several sequence diagram tools, and for all of these we needed to implement some postprocessing before their output can be integrated.

https://github.com/cabo/kramdown-rfc2629/wiki/SVG

> I'll happily offer a sample if there is interest.

If you have a realistic one, please do!

Grüße, Carsten

> 
> Cheers
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rfc-interest <rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org> On Behalf Of Brian E Carpenter
> Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 5:13 PM
> To: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org
> Subject: Re: [rfc-i] Text in SVG diagrams
> 
> On 08-Oct-21 02:06, Julian Reschke wrote:
>> Am 07.10.2021 um 15:00 schrieb Joel M. Halpern:
>>> Given the range of ways things can be represented in SVG, and the 
>>> demonstrated range of ways tools work, I would be amazed if a 
>>> converter was simple.
>>> 
>>> Yours,
>>> Joel
>> 
>> You're saying this so that I write a PoC, right?
> 
> 
> I think that is a real challenge. The utter garbage generated by LibreOffice appears completely intractable to me, for example. As far as I can see, every case is a special case.
> 
> To meet Martin's requirement, the RPC would find itself asking people to redo their drawings from zero, using a tool known to produce clean SVG.
> 
>   Brian
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