Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc-dev] <br> is back, was: New xml2rfc release: v2.32.0
Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> Fri, 04 October 2019 15:34 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc-dev] <br> is back, was: New xml2rfc release: v2.32.0
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On 2019-10-04 17:25, HANSEN, TONY L wrote: > On 10/4/19, 10:49 AM, "xml2rfc-dev on behalf of Julian Reschke" <xml2rfc-dev-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of julian.reschke@gmx.de> wrote: > > On 04.10.2019 14:41, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > > ... > > * Improved the handling of U+2028 in text output, and fixed a bug in the > > * handling of U+2028 in the HTML output. > > ... > > So U+2028 is Unicode "LINE SEPARATOR". What this means is that xml2rfc > now supports forced line breaks, just a few weeks (months?) after there > was a decision not to include the <br> element. > > I think this is a really bad idea, as opposed to having an explicit <br> > element, because: > > 1. It's kind of obscure (hint: browsers do not process it as line break). > > 2. The grammar doesn't help people to understand where it is allowed. > Actually, where *is* it allowed? Anywhere? > > So, AFAIC, if we identify cases where we want to allow forced line > breaks, we should allow them explicitly (and in the same way HTML does). > > I have always preferred having an explicit <br/> element (however it > gets spelled). I fought in the design team to have support for it in > at least some limited cases, and think removing it entirely was > completely the wrong decision. I'm too much of a pragmatic engineer. I'm strongly for having an explicit <br/> element. Given a clearly expressed need from the RPC, I will always try to provide tools to make it possible for them to do their work. Without having <br/> available, this was a fallback solution. Continuing to ignore clearly expressed needs of the RPC seems unproductive. Henrik
- [Rfc-markdown] New xml2rfc release: v2.32.0 Henrik Levkowetz
- [Rfc-markdown] <br> is back, was: [xml2rfc-dev] N… Julian Reschke
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc-dev] <br> is back, wa… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc-dev] <br> is back, wa… HANSEN, TONY L
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc-dev] <br> is back, wa… Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc-dev] <br> is back, wa… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc-dev] <br> is back, wa… Miek Gieben
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc-dev] <br> is back, wa… Julian Reschke
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc-dev] <br> is back, wa… Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc] [xml2rfc-dev] <br> i… Julian Reschke
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc] [xml2rfc-dev] <br> i… Sandy Ginoza
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc] [xml2rfc-dev] <br> i… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc] [xml2rfc-dev] <br> i… Sandy Ginoza
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc] [xml2rfc-dev] <br> i… HANSEN, TONY L
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc] [xml2rfc-dev] <br> i… Julian Reschke
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc] [xml2rfc-dev] <br> i… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc] [xml2rfc-dev] <br> i… Miek Gieben
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc] [xml2rfc-dev] <br> i… Brian Carpenter
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc] [xml2rfc-dev] <br> i… Miek Gieben
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc-dev] [xml2rfc] <br> i… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc-dev] [xml2rfc] <br> i… Miek Gieben
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc-dev] [xml2rfc] <br> i… Julian Reschke
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc] [xml2rfc-dev] <br> i… Julian Reschke
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc-dev] <br> is back, wa… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc] [xml2rfc-dev] <br> i… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc-dev] [xml2rfc] <br> i… Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc-dev] [xml2rfc] <br> i… HANSEN, TONY L
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc] [xml2rfc-dev] <br> i… HANSEN, TONY L
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc-dev] [xml2rfc] <br> i… Sandy Ginoza
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc-dev] [xml2rfc] <br> i… Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc-dev] [xml2rfc] <br> i… HANSEN, TONY L
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc-dev] [xml2rfc] <br> i… Julian Reschke
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc] [xml2rfc-dev] <br> i… Julian Reschke
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc-dev] [xml2rfc] <br> i… Julian Reschke
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc-dev] [xml2rfc] <br> i… Julian Reschke
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc-dev] [xml2rfc] <br> i… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc-dev] [xml2rfc] <br> i… Julian Reschke
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc-dev] [xml2rfc] <br> i… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc-dev] [xml2rfc] <br> i… Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc-dev] [xml2rfc] <br> i… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc-dev] [xml2rfc] <br> i… Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc-dev] [xml2rfc] <br> i… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc] [xml2rfc-dev] <br> i… Julian Reschke
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc-dev] [xml2rfc] <br> i… Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc-dev] [xml2rfc] <br> i… Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc-dev] [xml2rfc] <br> i… Julian Reschke
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc-dev] [xml2rfc] <br> i… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc-dev] [xml2rfc] <br> i… Sandy Ginoza
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc-dev] [xml2rfc] <br> i… Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc-dev] [xml2rfc] <br> i… Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc-dev] [xml2rfc] <br> i… Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc-dev] [xml2rfc] <br> i… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc-dev] [xml2rfc] <br> i… Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc-dev] [xml2rfc] <br> i… Julian Reschke
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc-dev] Compressed sourc… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc] [xml2rfc-dev] <br> i… Julian Reschke