Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc-dev] <br> is back, was: New xml2rfc release: v2.32.0

Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> Fri, 04 October 2019 15:34 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc-dev] <br> is back, was: New xml2rfc release: v2.32.0
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On 2019-10-04 17:25, HANSEN, TONY L wrote:
> On 10/4/19, 10:49 AM, "xml2rfc-dev on behalf of Julian Reschke" <xml2rfc-dev-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of julian.reschke@gmx.de>; wrote:
> 
>     On 04.10.2019 14:41, Henrik Levkowetz wrote:
>     > ...
>     >    * Improved the handling of U+2028 in text output, and fixed a bug in the
>     >    * handling of U+2028 in the HTML output.
>     > ...
>     
>     So U+2028 is Unicode "LINE SEPARATOR". What this means is that xml2rfc
>     now supports forced line breaks, just a few weeks (months?) after there
>     was a decision not to include the <br> element.
>     
>     I think this is a really bad idea, as opposed to having an explicit <br>
>     element, because:
>     
>     1. It's kind of obscure (hint: browsers do not process it as line break).
>     
>     2. The grammar doesn't help people to understand where it is allowed.
>     Actually, where *is* it allowed? Anywhere?
>     
>     So, AFAIC, if we identify cases where we want to allow forced line
>     breaks, we should allow them explicitly (and in the same way HTML does).
> 
> I have always preferred having an explicit <br/> element (however it
> gets spelled). I fought in the design team to have support for it in
> at least some limited cases, and think removing it entirely was
> completely the wrong decision. I'm too much of a pragmatic engineer.

I'm strongly for having an explicit <br/> element.

Given a clearly expressed need from the RPC, I will always try to provide
tools to make it possible for them to do their work.  Without having <br/>
available, this was a fallback solution.  Continuing to ignore clearly
expressed needs of the RPC seems unproductive.


	Henrik