RE: [rohc] The discussion on slope(s)
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> Let me give an example for a good argument that dynamic > slopes are not in 3095. > Consider section 6.5. > This section was intended as the basis for future documents > describing context transfer, so it lists all the state that a compressor/a > decompressor needs to maintain. > Dynamic slopes are not among this state. Carsten, That is because dynamic slopes were not considered worthwhile to transfer. The benefit of transferring dynamic slopes is to stay in SO state during context transfer. However it's complicated because the compressor may not be in SO state at the beginning or in the middle of a context transfer. Of course, the point is debatable. But we really haven't had a chance to discuss. I was one of the proponents of context transfer, but many other authors opposed the idea of context transfer at that time. As a result, context relocation is not mentioned by 3095 at all, and there has been no serious discussion/work on context relocation in ROHC. In 3GPP, however, ROHC context relocation has been discussed and adopted in TS 25.331 (I remember it's optional). There, SYN_SLOPE_TS (the last synchronized slope of TS) was defined as an optional parameter in context transfer. I think it's fair to also look at the arguments that dynamic (or learned or implicit) slopes are in 3095. I have given some back in March/April. Below is one of them. If I have to summarize in one sentence, the argument is that if dynamic slopes are not in 3095, many text (some are essential to encoding) wouldn't make sense without twisting hard the meaning of words. http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rohc/current/msg02101.html BR, Zhigang _______________________________________________ Rohc mailing list Rohc@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rohc
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- Re: [rohc] The discussion on slope(s) Carsten Bormann
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- Re: [rohc] The discussion on slope(s) Kristofer Sandlund
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- RE: [rohc] The discussion on slope(s) zhigang.c.liu
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