Re: [Roll] [ROLL] Projected DAO and Extended MOP

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Sat, 02 November 2019 20:37 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Roll] [ROLL] Projected DAO and Extended MOP
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This is how I see the state of things:

1) unaware-leaves + useofrplinfo are synchronized, and this frees up some mind
   bandwidth, and I confess to have been overwhelmed by this part.

2) we came to the capability problem from rfc8138-turn-on and DAO-projection.

3) I'd really like implement rfc8138-turn-on with the capabilities.
   I don't like the use of the T-bit here, because we have other stuff that
   we also need.

4) I don't feel like we have properly concluded about whether or not
   DAO-projection is a new MOP or not.


I have a todo item which is to write sample text on how to express
DAO-projection in terms of mopex.  I haven't done this yet.



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