Re: [Roll] WG Last Call draft-ietf-roll-trickle-mcast-02
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Hi Don, thanks, that's good to know. To your knowledge, are there any public results about delivery ratio of packets, overhead, delay, state requirements and/or a comparison to other flooding mechanisms such as classic flooding? Best Ulrich On Oct 26, 2012, at 20:50, Don Sturek <d.sturek@att.net> wrote: > Hi Ulrich, > > For ZigBee IP, we are using the trickle multicast draft. We have 7 > platforms interoperating using the draft. > > Don > > > On 10/26/12 8:33 PM, "Ulrich Herberg" <ulrich@herberg.name> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> below is my review. >> >> My major comment is that the IANA section needs to be fixed and a >> security considerations section needs to be written. Without that >> section, the document should not go forward in my opinion. >> Then I have multiple questions for clarity (see the detailed review). >> Also, as a standards track document, I think it should give some >> guidelines about which values for the parameters to use, as well as >> some indications about the state requirements of the protocol. >> Are there any implementations and/or deployments of the protocol out >> there? >> >> Best regards >> Ulrich >> >> >> >> >> ROLL J. Hui >> Internet-Draft Cisco >> Intended status: Standards Track R. Kelsey >> Expires: April 22, 2013 Silicon Labs >> October 19, 2012 >> >> >> Multicast Protocol for Low power and Lossy Networks (MPL) >> draft-ietf-roll-trickle-mcast-02 >> >> Abstract >> >> This document specifies the Multicast Protocol for Low power and >> Lossy Networks (MPL) that provides IPv6 multicast forwarding in >> constrained networks. MPL avoids the need to construct or maintain >> any multicast forwarding topology, disseminating messages to all MPL >> forwarders in an MPL domain. MPL uses the Trickle algorithm to drive >> packet transmissions for both control and data-plane packets. >> Specific Trickle parameter configurations allow MPL to trade between >> dissemination latency and transmission efficiency. >> >> Status of this Memo >> >> This Internet-Draft is submitted in full conformance with the >> provisions of BCP 78 and BCP 79. >> >> Internet-Drafts are working documents of the Internet Engineering >> Task Force (IETF). Note that other groups may also distribute >> working documents as Internet-Drafts. The list of current Internet- >> Drafts is at http://datatracker.ietf.org/drafts/current/. >> >> Internet-Drafts are draft documents valid for a maximum of six months >> and may be updated, replaced, or obsoleted by other documents at any >> time. It is inappropriate to use Internet-Drafts as reference >> material or to cite them other than as "work in progress." >> >> This Internet-Draft will expire on April 22, 2013. >> >> Copyright Notice >> >> Copyright (c) 2012 IETF Trust and the persons identified as the >> document authors. All rights reserved. >> >> This document is subject to BCP 78 and the IETF Trust's Legal >> Provisions Relating to IETF Documents >> (http://trustee.ietf.org/license-info) in effect on the date of >> publication of this document. Please review these documents >> carefully, as they describe your rights and restrictions with respect >> >> >> >> Hui & Kelsey Expires April 22, 2013 [Page 1] >> Internet-Draft MPL October 2012 >> >> >> to this document. Code Components extracted from this document must >> include Simplified BSD License text as described in Section 4.e of >> the Trust Legal Provisions and are provided without warranty as >> described in the Simplified BSD License. >> >> >> Table of Contents >> >> 1. Introduction . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 >> 2. Terminology . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 >> 3. Overview . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 >> 4. Message Formats . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 >> 4.1. MPL Option . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 >> 4.2. ICMPv6 MPL Message . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 >> 4.2.1. MPL Window . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 >> 5. MPL Forwarder Behavior . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 11 >> 5.1. Multicast Packet Dissemination . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 11 >> 5.1.1. Trickle Parameters and Variables . . . . . . . . . . . 12 >> 5.1.2. Proactive Propagation . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 12 >> 5.1.3. Reactive Propagation . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 13 >> 5.2. Sliding Windows . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 13 >> 5.3. Transmission of MPL Multicast Packets . . . . . . . . . . 15 >> 5.4. Reception of MPL Multicast Packets . . . . . . . . . . . . 16 >> 5.5. Transmission of ICMPv6 MPL Messages . . . . . . . . . . . 16 >> 5.6. Reception of ICMPv6 MPL Messages . . . . . . . . . . . . . 17 >> 6. MPL Parameters . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 19 >> 7. Acknowledgements . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 20 >> 8. IANA Considerations . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 21 >> 9. Security Considerations . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 22 >> 10. References . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 23 >> 10.1. Normative References . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 23 >> 10.2. Informative References . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 23 >> Authors' Addresses . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 24 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hui & Kelsey Expires April 22, 2013 [Page 2] >> Internet-Draft MPL October 2012 >> >> >> 1. Introduction >> >> Low power and Lossy Networks typically operate with strict resource >> constraints in communication, computation, memory, and energy. Such >> resource constraints may preclude the use of existing IPv6 multicast >> topology and forwarding mechanisms. Traditional IP multicast >> forwarding typically relies on topology maintenance mechanisms to >> forward multicast messages to all subscribers of a multicast group. >> However, maintaining such topologies in LLNs is costly and may not be >> feasible given the available resources. >> >> Memory constraints may limit devices to maintaining links/routes to >> one or a few neighbors. For this reason, the Routing Protocol for >> LLNs (RPL) >> >> UH> The correct title is "RPL: IPv6 Routing Protocol for Low-Power and >> Lossy Networks" >> >> specifies both storing and non-storing modes [RFC6550]. >> The latter allows RPL routers to maintain only one or a few default >> routes towards a LLN Border Router (LBR) >> >> UH> I did not find LBR in the terminology section. >> >> and use source routing to >> forward packets away from the LBR. For the same reasons, a LLN >> device may not be able to maintain a multicast forwarding topology >> when operating with limited memory. >> >> Furthermore, the dynamic properties of wireless networks can make the >> cost of maintaining a multicast forwarding topology prohibitively >> expensive. In wireless environments, topology maintenance may >> involve selecting a connected dominating set used to forward >> multicast messages to all nodes in an administrative domain. >> However, existing mechanisms often require two-hop topology >> information and the cost of maintaining such information grows >> polynomially with network density. >> >> This document specifies the Multicast Protocol for Low power and >> Lossy Networks (MPL), which provides IPv6 multicast forwarding in >> constrained networks. MPL avoids the need to construct or maintain >> any multicast forwarding topology, disseminating multicast messages >> to all MPL forwarders in an MPL domain. By using the Trickle >> algorithm [RFC6206], MPL requires only small, constant state for each >> MPL device that initiates disseminations. The Trickle algorithm also >> allows MPL to be density-aware, allowing the communication rate to >> scale logarithmically with density. >> >> UH> I am not sure I understand the last sentence. What does it mean? >> How is that achieved? >> >> UH> By the way, since this is a standards track document, is there any >> deployment experience? Implementations? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hui & Kelsey Expires April 22, 2013 [Page 3] >> Internet-Draft MPL October 2012 >> >> >> 2. Terminology >> >> The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", >> "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this >> document are to be interpreted as described in RFC 2119 [RFC2119]. >> >> UH> "NOT RECOMMENDED" is missing as per the errata of RFC2119 >> >> >> The following terms are used throughout this document: >> >> MPL forwarder An IPv6 router that subscribes to the MPL >> multicast group and participates in disseminating >> MPL multicast packets. >> >> MPL multicast scope The multicast scope that MPL uses when forwarding >> MPL multicast packets. In other words, the >> multicast scope of the IPv6 Destination Address >> of an MPL multicast packet. >> >> UH> An RFC reference to "scope" could be helpful. >> >> MPL domain A connected set of MPL forwarders that define the >> extent of the MPL dissemination process. >> >> UH> What does connected mean? What if a the network is split in two parts? >> >> As a >> form of flood, all MPL forwarders in an MPL >> domain will receive MPL multicast packets. >> >> UH> Probably not *all* forwards will receive it (assuming packets can >> be lost) >> >> >> The >> MPL domain MUST be composed of at least one MPL >> multicast scope and MAY be composed of multiple >> MPL multicast scopes. >> >> UH> Why is that? Anyway, I am unsure whether one can say that a >> routing domain "consists" of multicast scopes. If I understand that >> correctly, the multicast scope just determines how far a message >> propagates. >> >> >> MPL seed A MPL forwarder that begins the dissemination >> process for an MPL multicast packet. The MPL >> seed may be different than the source of the >> original multicast packet. >> >> MPL seed identifier An identifier that uniquely identifies an MPL >> forwarder within its MPL domain. >> >> UH> How is the uniqueness guaranteed? What kind of identifier is that? >> An IP address? I see it's defined later, but maybe it would be helpful >> to mention it here, too. >> >> >> original multicast packet An IPv6 multicast packet that is >> disseminated using MPL. >> >> UH> That terminology sounds a bit confusing; I would have imagined >> that the above description matches the following term "MPL multicast >> packet". What's the difference between an "original multicast packet" >> and an "MPL multicast packet"? I assume the one is the inner packet >> when using IPv6-in-IPv6 tunnels, the other one is the outer packet >> with the options header. >> >> >> MPL multicast packet An IPv6 multicast packet that contains an MPL >> Hop-by-Hop Option. When either source or >> destinations are beyond the MPL multicast scope, >> >> UH> Above it was said there may be multiple scopes in a domain. Here >> you talk about "the" scope. Which one? >> >> the MPL multicast packet is an IPv6-in-IPv6 >> packet that contains an MPL Hop-by-Hop Option in >> the outer IPv6 header and encapsulates an >> original multicast packet. When both source and >> destinations are within the MPL multicast scope, >> the MPL Hop-by-Hop Option may be included >> directly within the original multicast packet. >> >> >> >> >> >> Hui & Kelsey Expires April 22, 2013 [Page 4] >> Internet-Draft MPL October 2012 >> >> >> 3. Overview >> >> MPL delivers IPv6 multicast packets by disseminating them to all MPL >> forwarders within an MPL domain. MPL dissemination is a form of >> flood. An MPL forwarder may broadcast/multicast an MPL multicast >> packet out of the same physical interface on which it was received. >> Using link-layer broadcast/multicast allows MPL to forward multicast >> packets without explicitly identifying next-hop destinations. An MPL >> forwarder may also broadcast/multicast MPL multicast packets out >> other interfaces to disseminate the message across different links. >> MPL does not build or maintain a multicast forwarding topology to >> forward multicast packets. >> >> Any MPL forwarder may initiate the dissemination process by serving >> as an MPL seed for an original multicast packet. The MPL seed may or >> may not be the same device as the source of the original multicast >> packet. When the original multicast packet's source is outside the >> LLN, >> >> UH> LLN or MPL domain? How can a router determine if an incoming >> packet is inside our outside the MPL domain? >> >> the MPL seed may be the ingress router. Even if an original >> multicast packet source is within the LLN, the source may first >> forward the multicast packet to the MPL seed using IPv6-in-IPv6 >> tunneling. >> >> UH> The IPv6-in-IPv6 tunnelling is somewhat hidden in a section with a >> title not related to "IPv6 tunneling". I suggest to make an own >> section. >> >> Because MPL state requirements grows with the number of >> active MPL seeds, >> >> UH> In section 1 it was written that the state is constant. Here you >> say it grows. Which one is it? >> >> limiting the number of MPL seeds reduces the amount >> of state that MPL forwarders must maintain. >> >> Because MPL typically broadcasts/multicasts MPL packets out of the >> same interface on which they were received, >> >> UH> Why typically? Doesn't that depend on the scenario that this >> specification is used in? >> >> MPL forwarders are likely >> to receive an MPL multicast packet more than once. >> >> UH> I am not sure if that is the only reason. Isn't the reason that it >> may be received from multiple neighbors? >> >> The MPL seed tags >> each original multicast packet with an MPL seed identifier and a >> sequence number. The sequence number provides a total ordering of >> MPL multicast packets disseminated by the MPL seed. >> >> MPL defines a new IPv6 Hop-by-Hop Option, the MPL Option, to include >> MPL-specific information along with the original multicast packet. >> Each IPv6 multicast packet that MPL disseminates includes the MPL >> Option. Because the original multicast packet's source and the MPL >> seed may not be the same device, the MPL Option may be added to the >> original multicast packet en-route. To allow Path MTU discovery to >> work properly, MPL encapsulates the original multicast packet in >> another IPv6 header that includes the MPL Option. >> >> Upon receiving a new MPL multicast packet for forwarding, the MPL >> forwarder may proactively transmit the MPL multicast packet packet a >> limited number of times and then falls back into an optional reactive >> mode. In maintenance mode, an MPL forwarder buffers recently >> received MPL multicast packets and advertises a summary of recently >> received MPL multicast packets from time to time, allowing >> neighboring MPL forwarders to determine if they have any new >> multicast packets to offer or receive. >> >> >> >> Hui & Kelsey Expires April 22, 2013 [Page 5] >> Internet-Draft MPL October 2012 >> >> >> MPL forwarders schedule their packet (control and data) transmissions >> using the Trickle algorithm [RFC6206]. Trickle's adaptive >> transmission interval allows MPL to quickly disseminate messages when >> there are new MPL multicast packets, but reduces transmission >> overhead as the dissemination process completes. Trickle's >> suppression mechanism and transmission time selection allow MPL's >> communication rate to scale logarithmically with density. >> >> UH> I think the whole introduction is not very easy to read. There is >> a lot of text about some details (IPv6-in-IPv6 tunnels, multiple >> interfaces), but the essential mechanism is hard to identify from the >> text. Also, there is nothing mentioned about what kind of state is >> required to be stored on each router (which information sets etc). >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hui & Kelsey Expires April 22, 2013 [Page 6] >> Internet-Draft MPL October 2012 >> >> >> 4. Message Formats >> >> 4.1. MPL Option >> >> The MPL Option is carried in an IPv6 Hop-by-Hop Options header, >> >> UH> I think the correct term is "IPv6 Extension Hop-by-Hop Options header" >> >> UH> More importantly, RFC6564 specifies: >> >> New options for the existing Hop-by-Hop Header SHOULD NOT be >> created or specified unless no alternative solution is feasible. >> Any proposal to create a new option for the existing Hop-by-Hop >> Header MUST include a detailed explanation of why the hop-by-hop >> behavior is absolutely essential in the document proposing the new >> option with hop-by-hop behavior. >> >> UH> I did not see such an explanation. >> >> >> immediately following the IPv6 header. The MPL Option has the >> following format: >> >> 0 1 2 3 >> 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> | Option Type | Opt Data Len | >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> | S |M| rsv | sequence | seed-id (optional) | >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> >> UH> It could help to mention that this is formatted in network byte order >> >> Option Type XX (to be confirmed by IANA). >> >> Opt Data Len Length of the Option Data field in octets. MUST >> be set to either 2 or 4. >> >> UH> 2 or 4 depending on what? >> >> S 2-bit unsigned integer. Identifies the length of >> seed-id. 0 indicates that the seed-id is 0 and >> not included in the MPL Option. 1 indicates that >> the seed-id is a 16-bit unsigned integer. 2 >> indicates that the seed-id is a 64-bit unsigned >> integer. 3 indicates that the seed-id is a 128- >> bit unsigned integer. >> >> M 1-bit flag. 0 indicates that the value in >> sequence is not the greatest sequence number that >> was received from the MPL seed. >> >> rsv 5-bit reserved field. MUST be set to zero and >> incoming MPL multicast packets in which they are >> not zero MUST be dropped. >> >> sequence 8-bit unsigned integer. Identifies relative >> ordering of MPL multicast packets from the source >> identified by seed-id. >> >> seed-id Uniquely identifies the MPL seed that initiated >> dissemination of the MPL multicast packet. The >> size of seed-id is indicated by the S field. >> >> The Option Data of the Trickle Multicast option MUST NOT change as >> the MPL multicast packet is forwarded. Nodes that do not understand >> >> >> >> Hui & Kelsey Expires April 22, 2013 [Page 7] >> Internet-Draft MPL October 2012 >> >> >> the Trickle Multicast option MUST discard the packet. Thus, >> according to [RFC2460] the three high order bits of the Option Type >> must be set to '010'. The Option Data length is variable. >> >> The seed-id uniquely identifies an MPL seed within the MPL domain. >> When seed-id is 128 bits (S=3), the MPL seed MAY use an IPv6 address >> assigned to one of its interfaces that is unique within the MPL >> domain. Managing MPL seed identifiers is not within scope of this >> document. >> >> The sequence field establishes a total ordering of MPL multicast >> packets from the same MPL seed. The MPL seed MUST increment the >> sequence field's value on each new MPL multicast packet that it >> disseminates. Implementations MUST follow the Serial Number >> Arithmetic as defined in [RFC1982] when incrementing a sequence value >> or comparing two sequence values. >> >> Future updates to this specification may define additional fields >> following the seed-id field. >> >> 4.2. ICMPv6 MPL Message >> >> The MPL forwarder uses ICMPv6 MPL messages to advertise information >> about recently received MPL multicast packets. The ICMPv6 MPL >> message has the following format: >> >> 0 1 2 3 >> 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> | Type | Code | Checksum | >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> | | >> . MPL Window[1..n] . >> . . >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> >> >> IP Fields: >> >> Source Address A link-local address assigned to the sending >> interface. >> >> Destination Address The link-local all-nodes MPL forwarders multicast >> address (FF02::TBD). >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hui & Kelsey Expires April 22, 2013 [Page 8] >> Internet-Draft MPL October 2012 >> >> >> Hop Limit 255 >> >> ICMPv6 Fields: >> >> Type XX (to be confirmed by IANA). >> >> Code 0 >> >> Checksum The ICMP checksum. See [RFC4443]. >> >> MPL Window[1..n] List of one or more MPL Windows (defined in >> Section 4.2.1). >> >> An MPL forwarder transmits an ICMPv6 MPL message to advertise >> information about buffered MPL multicast packets. More explicitly, >> the ICMPv6 MPL message encodes the sliding window state (described in >> Section 5.2) that the MPL forwarder maintains for each MPL seed. The >> advertisement serves to indicate to neighboring MPL forwarders >> regarding newer messages that it may send or the neighboring MPL >> forwarders have yet to receive. >> >> 4.2.1. MPL Window >> >> An MPL Window encodes the sliding window state (described in >> Section 5.2 that the MPL forwarder maintains for an MPL seed. >> >> UH> missing ")" >> >> Each >> MPL Window has the following format: >> >> 0 1 2 3 >> 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> | w-min | w-len | S | seed-id (0, 2 or 16 octets) | >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> | | >> . buffered-mpl-packets (0 to 8 octets) . >> . . >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> >> >> w-min 8-bit unsigned integer. Indicates the first >> sequence number associated with the first bit in >> buffered-mpl-packets. >> >> w-len 6-bit unsigned integer. Indicates the size of >> the sliding window and the number of valid bits >> in buffered-mpl-packets. The sliding window's >> upper bound is the sum of w-min and w-len. >> >> >> >> >> >> Hui & Kelsey Expires April 22, 2013 [Page 9] >> Internet-Draft MPL October 2012 >> >> >> S 2-bit unsigned integer. Identifies the length of >> seed-id. 0 indicates that the seed-id value is 0 >> and not included in the MPL Option. 1 indicates >> that the seed-id value is a 16-bit unsigned >> integer. 2 indicates that the seed-id value is a >> 128-bit unsigned integer. 3 is reserved. >> >> seed-id Indicates the MPL seed associated with this >> sliding window. >> >> buffered-mpl-packets Variable-length bit vector. Identifies the >> sequence numbers of MPL multicast packets that >> the MPL forwarder has buffered. The sequence >> number is determined by w-min + i, where i is the >> offset within buffered-mpl-packets. >> >> The MPL Window does not have any octet alignment requirement. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hui & Kelsey Expires April 22, 2013 [Page 10] >> Internet-Draft MPL October 2012 >> >> >> 5. MPL Forwarder Behavior >> >> An MPL forwarder implementation needs to manage sliding windows for >> each active MPL seed. The sliding window allows the MPL forwarder to >> determine what multicast packets to accept and what multicast packets >> are buffered. An MPL forwarder must also manage MPL packet >> transmissions. >> >> 5.1. Multicast Packet Dissemination >> >> MPL uses the Trickle algorithm to control packet transmissions when >> disseminating MPL multicast packets [RFC6206]. MPL provides two >> propagation mechanisms for disseminating MPL multicast packets. >> >> 1. With proactive propagation, an MPL forwarder transmits buffered >> MPL multicast packets using the Trickle algorithm. This method >> is called proactive propagation since an MPL forwarder actively >> transmits MPL multicast packets without discovering that a >> neighboring MPL forwarder has yet to receive the message. >> >> 2. With reactive propagation, an MPL forwarder transmits ICMPv6 MPL >> messages using the Trickle algorithm. An MPL forwarder only >> transmits buffered MPL multicast packets upon discovering that >> neighboring devices have not yet to receive the corresponding MPL >> multicast packets. >> >> When receiving a new multicast packet, an MPL forwarder first >> utilizes proactive propagation to forward the MPL multicast packet. >> Proactive propagation reduces dissemination latency since it does not >> require discovering that neighboring devices have not yet received >> the MPL multicast packet. MPL forwarders utilize proactive >> propagation for newly received MPL multicast packets since they can >> assume that some neighboring MPL forwarders have yet to receive the >> MPL multicast packet. After a limited number of MPL multicast packet >> transmissions, the MPL forwarder may terminate proactive propagation >> for the MPL multicast packet. >> >> An MPL forwarder may optionally use reactive propagation to continue >> the dissemination process with lower communication overhead. With >> reactive propagation, neighboring MPL forwarders use ICMPv6 MPL >> messages to discover new MPL multicast messages that have not yet >> been received. When discovering that a neighboring MPL forwarder has >> not yet received a new MPL multicast packet, the MPL forwarder >> enables proactive propagation again. >> >> UH> There is not a lot of RFC2119 language in the above. Or is that >> defined later? Is this above section more like an introduction? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hui & Kelsey Expires April 22, 2013 [Page 11] >> Internet-Draft MPL October 2012 >> >> >> 5.1.1. Trickle Parameters and Variables >> >> As specified in RFC 6206 [RFC6206], a Trickle timer runs for a >> defined interval and has three configuration parameters: the minimum >> interval size Imin, the maximum interval size Imax, and a redundancy >> constant k. >> >> MPL defines a fourth configuration parameter, TimerExpirations, which >> indicates the number of Trickle timer expiration events that occur >> before terminating the Trickle algorithm. >> >> Each MPL forwarder maintains a separate Trickle parameter set for the >> proactive and reactive propagation methods. TimerExpirations MUST be >> greater than 0 for proactive propagation. TimerExpirations MAY be >> set to 0 for reactive propagation, which effectively disables >> reactive propagation. >> >> As specified in RFC 6206 [RFC6206], a Trickle timer has three >> variables: the current interval size I, a time within the current >> interval t, and a counter c. >> >> UH> This sentence starts confusing, as it looks very similar to the >> first paragraph in this section. "a Trickle timer has three variables" >> How about using the same language as in RFC6206: >> "In addition to these three parameters, Trickle maintains three >> variables: >> o I, the current interval size, >> o t, a time within the current interval, and >> o c, a counter." >> >> >> MPL defines a fourth variable, e, which counts the number of Trickle >> timer expiration events since the Trickle timer was last reset. >> >> 5.1.2. Proactive Propagation >> >> With proactive propagation, the MPL forwarder transmits buffered MPL >> multicast packets using the Trickle algorithm. Each buffered MPL >> multicast packet that is proactively being disseminated with >> proactive propagation has an associated Trickle timer. >> >> UH> I think that somewhere the state requirements need to be >> mentioned. How does that affect scalability of the algorithm etc. >> Density is mentioned somewhere in the beginning, but not explained how >> that would affect scalability and state requirements. >> >> Adhering to >> Section 5 of RFC 6206 [RFC6206], this document defines the following: >> >> o This document defines a "consistent" transmission for proactive >> propagation as receiving an MPL multicast packet that has the same >> MPL seed identifier and sequence number as a buffered MPL packet. >> >> o This document defines an "inconsistent" transmission for proactive >> propagation as receiving an MPL multicast packet that has the same >> MPL seed identifier, the M flag set, and has a sequence number >> less than the buffered MPL multicast packet's sequence number. >> >> o This document does not define any external "events". >> >> o This document defines both MPL multicast packets and ICMPv6 MPL >> multicast packets as Trickle messages. These messages are defined >> in the sections below. >> >> UH> I don't see the term Trickle message used anywhere else. >> >> >> >> >> >> Hui & Kelsey Expires April 22, 2013 [Page 12] >> Internet-Draft MPL October 2012 >> >> >> o The actions outside the Trickle algorithm that the protocol takes >> involve managing sliding window state, and is specified in >> Section 5.2. >> >> 5.1.3. Reactive Propagation >> >> With reactive propagation, the MPL forwarder transmits ICMPv6 MPL >> messages using the Trickle algorithm. A MPL forwarder maintains a >> single Trickle timer for reactive propagation with each MPL domain. >> When REACTIVE_TIMER_EXPIRATIONS is 0, the MPL forwarder does not >> execute the Trickle algorithm for reactive propagation and reactive >> propagation is disabled. Adhering to Section 5 of RFC 6206 >> [RFC6206], this document defines the following: >> >> o This document defines a "consistent" transmission for reactive >> propagation as receiving an ICMPv6 MPL message that indicates >> neither the receiving nor transmitting node has new MPL multicast >> packets to offer. >> >> o This document defines an "inconsistent" transmission for reactive >> propagation as receiving an ICMPv6 MPL message that indicates >> either the receiving or transmitting node has at least one new MPL >> multicast packet to offer. >> >> o This document defines an "event" for reactive propagation as >> updating any sliding window (i.e. changing the value of WindowMin, >> WindowMax, or the set of buffered MPL multicast packets) in >> response to receiving an MPL multicast packet. >> >> o This document defines both MPL multicast packets and ICMPv6 MPL >> multicast packets as Trickle messages. These messages are defined >> in the sections below. >> >> UH> I don't see the term "Trickle message" anywhere else (other than >> in 5.1.2) >> >> >> o The actions outside the Trickle algorithm that the protocol takes >> involve managing sliding window state, and is specified in >> Section 5.2. >> >> 5.2. Sliding Windows >> >> Every MPL forwarder MUST maintain a sliding window of sequence >> numbers for each MPL seed of recently received MPL packets. The >> sliding window performs two functions: >> >> 1. Indicate what MPL multicast packets the MPL forwarder should >> accept. >> >> 2. Indicate what MPL multicast packets are buffered and may be >> transmitted to neighboring MPL forwarders. >> >> >> >> Hui & Kelsey Expires April 22, 2013 [Page 13] >> Internet-Draft MPL October 2012 >> >> >> Each sliding window logically consists of: >> >> 1. A lower-bound sequence number, WindowMin, that represents the >> sequence number of the oldest MPL multicast packet the MPL >> forwarder is willing to receive or has buffered. An MPL >> forwarder MUST ignore any MPL multicast packet that has sequence >> value less than than WindowMin. >> >> 2. An upper-bound sequence value, WindowMax, that represents the >> sequence number of the next MPL multicast packet that the MPL >> forwarder expects to receive. An MPL forwarder MUST accept any >> MPL multicast packet that has sequence number greater than or >> equal to WindowMax. >> >> 3. A list of MPL multicast packets, BufferedPackets, buffered by the >> MPL forwarder. Each entry in BufferedPackets MUST have a >> sequence number in the range [WindowMin, WindowMax). >> >> 4. A timer, HoldTimer, that indicates the minimum lifetime of the >> sliding window. The MPL forwarder MUST NOT free a sliding window >> before HoldTimer expires. >> >> When receiving an MPL multicast packet, if no existing sliding window >> exists for the MPL seed, the MPL forwarder MUST create a new sliding >> window before accepting the MPL multicast packet. The MPL forwarder >> may reclaim memory resources by freeing a sliding window for another >> MPL seed if its HoldTimer has expired. If, for any reason, the MPL >> forwarder cannot create a new sliding window, it MUST discard the >> packet. >> >> If a sliding window exists for the MPL seed, the MPL forwarder MUST >> ignore the MPL multicast packet if the packet's sequence number is >> less than WindowMin or appears in BufferedPackets. Otherwise, the >> MPL forwarder MUST accept the packet and determine whether or not to >> forward the packet and/or pass the packet to the next higher layer. >> >> When accepting an MPL multicast packet, the MPL forwarder MUST update >> the sliding window based on the packet's sequence number. If the >> sequence number is not less than WindowMax, the MPL forwarder MUST >> set WindowMax to 1 greater than the packet's sequence number. If >> WindowMax - WindowMin > MPL_MAX_WINDOW_SIZE, the MPL forwarder MUST >> increment WindowMin such that WindowMax - WindowMin <= >> MPL_MAX_WINDOW_SIZE. At the same time, the MPL forwarder MUST free >> any entries in BufferedPackets that have a sequence number less than >> WindowMin. >> >> If the MPL forwarder has available memory resources, it MUST buffer >> the MPL multicast packet for proactive propagation. If not enough >> >> >> >> Hui & Kelsey Expires April 22, 2013 [Page 14] >> Internet-Draft MPL October 2012 >> >> >> memory resources are available to buffer the packet, the MPL >> forwarder MUST increment WindowMin and free entries in >> BufferedPackets that have a sequence number less than WindowMin until >> enough memory resources are available. Incrementing WindowMin will >> ensure that the MPL forwarder does not accept previously received >> packets. >> >> An MPL forwarder MAY reclaim memory resources from sliding windows >> for other MPL seeds. If a sliding window for another MPL seed is >> actively disseminating messages and has more than one entry in its >> BufferedPackets, the MPL forwarder may free entries for that MPL seed >> by incrementing WindowMin as described above. >> >> If the MPL forwarder cannot free enough memory resources to buffer >> the MPL multicast packet, the MPL forwarder MUST set WindowMin to 1 >> greater than the packet's sequence number. >> >> When memory resources are available, an MPL forwarder SHOULD buffer a >> MPL multicast packet until the proactive propagation completes (i.e. >> the Trickle algorithm stops execution) and MAY buffer for longer. >> After proactive propagation completes, the MPL forwarder may advance >> WindowMin to the packet's sequence number to reclaim memory >> resources. When the MPL forwarder no longer buffers any packets, it >> MAY set WindowMin equal to WindowMax. When setting WindowMin equal >> to WindowMax, the MPL forwarder MUST initialize HoldTimer to >> WINDOW_HOLD_TIME and start HoldTimer. After HoldTimer expires, the >> MPL forwarder MAY free the sliding window to reclaim memory >> resources. >> >> 5.3. Transmission of MPL Multicast Packets >> >> The MPL forwarder manages buffered MPL multicast packet transmissions >> using the Trickle algorithm. When adding a packet to >> BufferedPackets, the MPL forwarder MUST create a Trickle timer for >> the packet and start execution of the Trickle algorithm. >> >> After PROACTIVE_TIMER_EXPIRATIONS Trickle timer events, the MPL >> forwarder MUST stop executing the Trickle algorithm. When a buffered >> MPL multicast packet does not have an active Trickle timer, the MPL >> forwarder MAY free the buffered packet by advancing WindowMin to 1 >> greater than the packet's sequence number. >> >> Each interface that supports MPL is configured with exactly one MPL >> multicast scope. The MPL multicast scope MUST be site-local or >> smaller and defaults to link-local. A scope larger than link-local >> MAY be used only when that scope corresponds exactly to the MPL >> domain. >> >> UH> Why is this written in a section called "Transmission of MPL >> Multicast Packets"? Seems more like an initial configuration. Same for >> the below IPv6.. I would have expected that in a dedicated section >> about IPv6 tunneling >> UH> How would the router now that the scope corresponds exactly to the >> MPL domain? >> >> >> >> >> Hui & Kelsey Expires April 22, 2013 [Page 15] >> Internet-Draft MPL October 2012 >> >> >> An MPL domain may therefore be composed of one or more MPL multicast >> scopes. For example, the MPL domain may be composed of a single MPL >> multicast scope when using a site-local scope. Alternatively, the >> MPL domain may be composed of multiple MPL multicast scopes when >> using a link-local scope. >> >> UH> I am not quite sure how the scope works in this specification. Is >> that used somewhere when deciding whether to forward packets? >> >> IPv6-in-IPv6 encapsulation MUST be used when using MPL to forward an >> original multicast packet whose source or destination address is >> outside the MPL multicast scope. >> >> UH> The source address is a unicast address, right? How can that be >> outside a multicast scope? How would you know? >> >> IPv6-in-IPv6 encapsulation is >> necessary to support Path MTU discovery when the MPL forwarder is not >> the source of the original multicast packet. IPv6-in-IPv6 >> encapsulation also allows an MPL forwarder to remove the MPL Option >> when forwarding the original multicast packet over a link that does >> not support MPL. >> >> UH> That should be specified more clearly. What does "remove" mean? I >> suppose you mean decapsulate the inner IPv6 packet. >> >> The destination address scope for the outer IPv6 >> header MUST be the MPL multicast scope. >> >> UH> Again, which one? I thought there can be several scopes? >> >> When an MPL domain is composed of multiple MPL multicast scopes (e.g. >> when the MPL multicast scope is link-local), an MPL forwarder MUST >> decapsulate and encapsulate the original multicast packet when >> crossing between different MPL multicast scopes. >> >> UH> When would you know when to cross a multicast scope? Do you mean >> routing domain? >> >> In doing so, the >> MPL forwarder MUST duplicate the MPL Option, unmodified, in the new >> outer IPv6 header. >> >> The IPv6 destination address of the MPL multicast packet is the all- >> MPL-forwarders multicast address (TBD). >> >> UH> The TBD will be hard to spot by the RFC editor / IANA. I suggest >> to define the variable and use the value only in the IANA section. >> >> The scope of the IPv6 >> destination address is set to the MPL multicast scope. >> >> UH> which one? >> >> 5.4. Reception of MPL Multicast Packets >> >> Upon receiving an MPL multicast packet, the MPL forwarder first >> determines whether or not to accept and buffer the MPL multicast >> packet based on its MPL seed and sequence value, as specified in >> Section 5.2. >> >> If the MPL forwarder accepts the MPL multicast packet, the MPL >> forwarder determines whether or not to deliver the original multicast >> packet to the next higher layer. >> >> UH> How would it determine that? >> >> For example, if the MPL multicast >> packet uses IPv6-in-IPv6 encapsulation, the MPL forwarder removes the >> outer IPv6 header, which also removes MPL Option. >> >> UH> For example? What exactly needs to be done? >> >> 5.5. Transmission of ICMPv6 MPL Messages >> >> The MPL forwarder generates and transmits a new ICMPv6 MPL message >> whenever Trickle requests a transmission. >> >> UH> So for each data packet there would be a new ICMPv6 message? >> Wouldn't that create a lot of overhead? >> >> UH> To which address is the ICMP message sent? On which interface? >> >> The MPL forwarder includes >> an encoding of each sliding window in the ICMPv6 MPL message. >> >> Each sliding window is encoded using an MPL Window entry, defined in >> Section 5.2. The MPL forwarder sets the MPL Window fields as >> >> >> >> Hui & Kelsey Expires April 22, 2013 [Page 16] >> Internet-Draft MPL October 2012 >> >> >> follows: >> >> S If the MPL seed identifier is 0, set S to 0. If the MPL seed >> identifier is within the range [1, 65535], set S to 2. Otherwise, >> set S to 3. >> >> w-min Set to the lower bound of the sliding window (i.e. >> WindowMin). >> >> w-len Set to the length of the window (i.e. WindowMax - WindowMin). >> >> seed-id If S is non-zero, set to the MPL seed identifier. >> >> buffered-mpl-packets Set each bit that represents a sequence number >> of a packet in BufferedPackets to 1. Set all other bits to 0. >> The i'th bit in buffered-mpl-packets represents a sequence number >> of w-min + i. >> >> 5.6. Reception of ICMPv6 MPL Messages >> >> An MPL forwarder processes each ICMPv6 MPL message that it receives >> to determine if it has any new MPL multicast packets to receive or >> offer. >> >> An MPL forwarder determines if a new MPL multicast packet has not >> been received from a neighboring node if any of the following >> conditions hold true: >> >> 1. The ICMPv6 MPL message includes an MPL Window for an MPL seed >> that does not have a corresponding sliding window entry on the >> MPL forwarder. >> >> 2. The neighbor has a packet in its BufferedPackets that has >> sequence value greater than or equal to WindowMax (i.e. w-min + >> w-len >= WindowMax). >> >> 3. The neighbor has a packet in its BufferedPackets that has >> sequence number within range of the sliding window but is not >> included in BufferedPackets (i.e. the i'th bit in buffered-mpl- >> packets is set to 1, where the sequence number is w-min + i). >> >> When an MPL forwarder determines that it has not yet received a new >> MPL multicast packet buffered by a neighboring device, the MPL >> forwarder resets the Trickle timer associated with reactive >> propagation. >> >> An MPL forwarder determines if an entry in BufferedPackets has not >> been received by a neighboring MPL forwarder if any of the following >> >> >> >> Hui & Kelsey Expires April 22, 2013 [Page 17] >> Internet-Draft MPL October 2012 >> >> >> conditions hold true: >> >> 1. The ICMPv6 MPL message does not include an MPL Window for the >> packet's MPL seed. >> >> 2. The packet's sequence number is greater than or equal to the >> neighbor's WindowMax value (i.e. the packet's sequence number is >> greater than or equal to w-min + w-len). >> >> 3. The packet's sequence number is within the range of the >> neighbor's sliding window [WindowMin, WindowMax), but not >> included in the neighbor's BufferedPacket (i.e. the packet's >> sequence number is greater than or equal to w-min, strictly less >> than w-min + w-len, and the corresponding bit in buffered-mpl- >> packets is set to 0. >> >> When an MPL forwarder determines that it has at least one buffered >> MPL multicast packet that has not yet been received by a neighbor, >> the MPL forwarder resets the Trickle timer associated with reactive >> propagation. Additionally, for each buffered MPL multicast packet >> that should be transferred, the MPL forwarder MUST reset the Trickle >> timer and reset e to 0 for proactive propagation. If the Trickle >> timer for proactive propagation has already stopped execution, >> >> UH> Which timer? I thought there is one timer per packet in the >> proactive mode? >> >> the >> MPL forwarder MUST initialize a new Trickle timer and start execution >> of the Trickle algorithm. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hui & Kelsey Expires April 22, 2013 [Page 18] >> Internet-Draft MPL October 2012 >> >> >> 6. MPL Parameters >> >> An MPL forwarder maintains two sets of Trickle parameters for the >> proactive and reactive methods. The Trickle parameters are listed >> below: >> >> PROACTIVE_IMIN The minimum Trickle timer interval, as defined in >> [RFC6206] for proactive propagation. >> >> PROACTIVE_IMAX The maximum Trickle timer interval, as defined in >> [RFC6206] for proactive propagation. >> >> PROACTIVE_K The redundancy constant, as defined in [RFC6206] for >> proactive propagation. >> >> PROACTIVE_TIMER_EXPIRATIONS The number of Trickle timer expirations >> that occur before terminating the Trickle algorithm. MUST be set >> to a value greater than 0. >> >> REACTIVE_IMIN The minimum Trickle timer interval, as defined in >> [RFC6206] for reactive propagation. >> >> REACTIVE_IMAX The maximum Trickle timer interval, as defined in >> [RFC6206] for reactive propagation. >> >> REACTIVE_K The redundancy constant, as defined in [RFC6206] for >> reactive propagation. >> >> REACTIVE_TIMER_EXPIRATIONS The number of Trickle timer expirations >> that occur before terminating the Trickle algorithm. MAY be set >> to 0, which disables reactive propagation. >> >> WINDOW_HOLD_TIME The minimum lifetime for sliding window state. >> >> >> UH> I don't see any recommendations for these values. That is >> typically requested in the IESG evaluation for standards track >> documents (either default values and/or guideslines on the values). >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hui & Kelsey Expires April 22, 2013 [Page 19] >> Internet-Draft MPL October 2012 >> >> >> 7. Acknowledgements >> >> The authors would like to acknowledge the helpful comments of Robert >> Cragie, Esko Dijk, Ralph Droms, Paul Duffy, Owen Kirby, Joseph Reddy, >> Dario Tedeschi, and Peter van der Stok, which greatly improved the >> document. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hui & Kelsey Expires April 22, 2013 [Page 20] >> Internet-Draft MPL October 2012 >> >> >> 8. IANA Considerations >> >> The Trickle Multicast option requires an IPv6 Option Number. >> >> >> >> HEX act chg rest >> --- --- --- ----- >> C 01 0 TBD >> >> >> >> The first two bits indicate that the IPv6 node MUST discard the >> packet if it doesn't recognize the option type, and the third bit >> indicates that the Option Data MUST NOT change en-route. >> >> >> UH> That does not look like a valid IANA section. RFC 5226 give some >> good guidelines. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hui & Kelsey Expires April 22, 2013 [Page 21] >> Internet-Draft MPL October 2012 >> >> >> 9. Security Considerations >> >> TODO. >> >> >> UH> This document needs a security considerations section. Refer to RFC >> 3552. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hui & Kelsey Expires April 22, 2013 [Page 22] >> Internet-Draft MPL October 2012 >> >> >> 10. References >> >> 10.1. Normative References >> >> [RFC1982] Elz, R. and R. Bush, "Serial Number Arithmetic", RFC 1982, >> August 1996. >> >> [RFC2119] Bradner, S., "Key words for use in RFCs to Indicate >> Requirement Levels", BCP 14, RFC 2119, March 1997. >> >> [RFC2328] Moy, J., "OSPF Version 2", STD 54, RFC 2328, April 1998. >> >> [RFC2460] Deering, S. and R. Hinden, "Internet Protocol, Version 6 >> (IPv6) Specification", RFC 2460, December 1998. >> >> [RFC2473] Conta, A. and S. Deering, "Generic Packet Tunneling in >> IPv6 Specification", RFC 2473, December 1998. >> >> [RFC4443] Conta, A., Deering, S., and M. Gupta, "Internet Control >> Message Protocol (ICMPv6) for the Internet Protocol >> Version 6 (IPv6) Specification", RFC 4443, March 2006. >> >> [RFC6206] Levis, P., Clausen, T., Hui, J., Gnawali, O., and J. Ko, >> "The Trickle Algorithm", RFC 6206, March 2011. >> >> [RFC6550] Winter, T., Thubert, P., Brandt, A., Hui, J., Kelsey, R., >> Levis, P., Pister, K., Struik, R., Vasseur, JP., and R. >> Alexander, "RPL: IPv6 Routing Protocol for Low-Power and >> Lossy Networks", RFC 6550, March 2012. >> >> 10.2. Informative References >> >> [I-D.ietf-roll-terminology] >> Vasseur, J., "Terminology in Low power And Lossy >> Networks", draft-ietf-roll-terminology-06 (work in >> progress), September 2011. >> >> UH> That document is never actually cited. Also, it has not been >> updated in over a year. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hui & Kelsey Expires April 22, 2013 [Page 23] >> Internet-Draft MPL October 2012 >> >> >> Authors' Addresses >> >> Jonathan W. Hui >> Cisco >> 170 West Tasman Drive >> San Jose, California 95134 >> USA >> >> Phone: +408 424 1547 >> Email: jonhui@cisco.com >> >> >> Richard Kelsey >> Silicon Labs >> 25 Thomson Place >> Boston, Massachusetts 02210 >> USA >> >> Phone: +617 951 1225 >> Email: richard.kelsey@silabs.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hui & Kelsey Expires April 22, 2013 [Page 24] >> _______________________________________________ >> Roll mailing list >> Roll@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll > >
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- Re: [Roll] WG Last Call draft-ietf-roll-trickle-m… Ralph Droms
- Re: [Roll] WG Last Call draft-ietf-roll-trickle-m… Ralph Droms
- Re: [Roll] WG Last Call draft-ietf-roll-trickle-m… Philip Levis
- Re: [Roll] WG Last Call draft-ietf-roll-trickle-m… Abdussalam Baryun