Re: [rrg] moving towards recommendation: the current plan
Michael Menth <menth@informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Tue, 17 November 2009 06:40 UTC
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Subject: Re: [rrg] moving towards recommendation: the current plan
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Hi Brian, Brian E Carpenter schrieb: > On 2009-11-17 11:59, Michael Menth wrote: > >> Hi Brian, >> >> Brian E Carpenter schrieb: >> >>> On 2009-11-16 21:01, Michael Menth wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> if NAT66 is an option >>>> >>>> >>> Can you define "NAT66" precisely? >>> >>> >> We need the a box that translates local IPv6 addresses into global IPv6 >> addresses using a stateless NAT using a one-to-one reversible mapping >> algorithm for single-homed edge networks. That is precisely what NAT66 >> as described in the draft does according to our understanding. >> > > Clarification: when I say 'reversible', I mean that the translation > is reversible before the packet is delivered to the transport layer at > the remote end (as in 8+8/ILNP or SHIM6). > Ok, yes, we assume that feature in upgraded hosts, but not in classic IPv6 host that may also be accommodated in a GLI domain. > Obviously, any NAT has to perform its local mapping in both directions, > but tha's not what I meant. > That was the meaning of "reversible" in the NAT66-mrw doc. Regards, Michael > Brian > > >> Regards, >> >> Michael >> >> >>> The only precise proposal I am aware of is >>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mrw-behave-nat66 >>> (which I should stress is *not* an IETF WG document, >>> despite its name). That is a stateless, non-reversible >>> NAT. >>> >>> Brian >>> >>> -- Dr. Michael Menth, Assistant Professor University of Wuerzburg, Institute of Computer Science Am Hubland, D-97074 Wuerzburg, Germany, room B206 phone: (+49)-931/31-86644 (new), fax: (+49)-931/888-6632 mailto:menth@informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de http://www3.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de/research/ngn
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