Re: [rrg] moving towards recommendation: the current plan
Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Mon, 16 November 2009 23:52 UTC
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On 2009-11-17 11:59, Michael Menth wrote: > Hi Brian, > > Brian E Carpenter schrieb: >> On 2009-11-16 21:01, Michael Menth wrote: >> >> >>> if NAT66 is an option >>> >> >> Can you define "NAT66" precisely? >> > We need the a box that translates local IPv6 addresses into global IPv6 > addresses using a stateless NAT using a one-to-one reversible mapping > algorithm for single-homed edge networks. That is precisely what NAT66 > as described in the draft does according to our understanding. Clarification: when I say 'reversible', I mean that the translation is reversible before the packet is delivered to the transport layer at the remote end (as in 8+8/ILNP or SHIM6). Obviously, any NAT has to perform its local mapping in both directions, but tha's not what I meant. Brian > > Regards, > > Michael > >> The only precise proposal I am aware of is >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mrw-behave-nat66 >> (which I should stress is *not* an IETF WG document, >> despite its name). That is a stateless, non-reversible >> NAT. >> >> Brian >> >
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