Re: [Rswg] draft-mcquistin-augmented-ascii-diagrams
Colin Perkins <csp@csperkins.org> Sun, 29 October 2023 14:32 UTC
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From: Colin Perkins <csp@csperkins.org>
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Subject: Re: [Rswg] draft-mcquistin-augmented-ascii-diagrams
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On 28 Oct 2023, at 21:55, John R. Levine wrote: >> The entire point of this draft is that it doesn't require any change >> to the RFC format. It doesn't need to be embedded into artwork, >> source code, media types, or anything of the sort. It's a structured >> way of using the existing RFC format, unchanged, and usable **today** >> (and, indeed, with any variant of the RFC format we've had in the >> last few decades). > > It would look OK in the text rendering, horrible in the HTML and PDF, > and would be a challenge to represent in XML since the line breaks are > critical. (Unless you're secretly planning to wrap it in XML > <artwork> or the like.) Authors have been including these types of header diagrams and descriptions in RFCs and Internet-drafts for decades. They render fine. Yes, if using XML to prepare the draft, then the packet header diagrams are enclosed in <artwork> elements and the description lists use <dl> elements. This seems trivial, but we can add a paragraph to the draft to state it if it needs to be said. Colin > As I think I said in another message, my suggestion it to take out the > kludgery to try to embed the diagrams in text and just define the > format. > > We can separately figure out what kind of RFCXML artwork or sourcecode > elements would be the best container. > > R's, > John
- Re: [Rswg] draft-mcquistin-augmented-ascii-diagra… John Levine
- [Rswg] draft-mcquistin-augmented-ascii-diagrams Independent Submissions Editor (Eliot Lear)
- Re: [Rswg] draft-mcquistin-augmented-ascii-diagra… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Rswg] draft-mcquistin-augmented-ascii-diagra… Julian Reschke
- Re: [Rswg] [rfc-i] draft-mcquistin-augmented-asci… HANSEN, TONY L
- Re: [Rswg] [rfc-i] draft-mcquistin-augmented-asci… Kyle Rose
- Re: [Rswg] [rfc-i] draft-mcquistin-augmented-asci… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Rswg] [rfc-i] draft-mcquistin-augmented-asci… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [Rswg] [rfc-i] draft-mcquistin-augmented-asci… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Rswg] [rfc-i] draft-mcquistin-augmented-asci… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [Rswg] [rfc-i] draft-mcquistin-augmented-asci… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Rswg] [rfc-i] draft-mcquistin-augmented-asci… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [Rswg] [rfc-i] draft-mcquistin-augmented-asci… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Rswg] draft-mcquistin-augmented-ascii-diagra… John Levine
- Re: [Rswg] draft-mcquistin-augmented-ascii-diagra… Julian Reschke
- Re: [Rswg] draft-mcquistin-augmented-ascii-diagra… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Rswg] draft-mcquistin-augmented-ascii-diagra… Colin Perkins
- Re: [Rswg] draft-mcquistin-augmented-ascii-diagra… Stephen McQuistin
- Re: [Rswg] draft-mcquistin-augmented-ascii-diagra… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Rswg] [rfc-i] draft-mcquistin-augmented-asci… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [Rswg] draft-mcquistin-augmented-ascii-diagra… John R Levine
- Re: [Rswg] draft-mcquistin-augmented-ascii-diagra… John R. Levine
- Re: [Rswg] draft-mcquistin-augmented-ascii-diagra… John R Levine
- Re: [Rswg] draft-mcquistin-augmented-ascii-diagra… Colin Perkins
- Re: [Rswg] draft-mcquistin-augmented-ascii-diagra… Colin Perkins
- Re: [Rswg] draft-mcquistin-augmented-ascii-diagra… John R Levine
- Re: [Rswg] draft-mcquistin-augmented-ascii-diagra… Carsten Bormann