[rtcweb] What is consent?
Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com> Tue, 11 September 2012 00:30 UTC
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Subject: [rtcweb] What is consent?
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What specific properties of a STUN Binding request does the browser use to determine that the peer has consented to receive packets? >From what I can infer, it's simply the existence of a response. That is insufficient. -security says: [...] ICE provides this verification as well, by using the STUN credentials as a form of per-session shared secret. Those credentials are known to the Web application, but would need to also be known and used by the STUN-receiving element to be useful. But that's not strictly correct. The Binding response necessarily does not include MESSAGE-INTEGRITY, which is the critical tie to per-session credentials. What then would prevent the browser from mistaking a response from a STUN server as consent? The STUN server doesn't need to check MESSAGE-INTEGRITY and USERNAME is systematically ignored where it is not used, so we can't rely on the server doing something helpful for itself. I imagine that stunserver.org could be made safe because it doesn't provide FINGERPRINT in responses (it's 3489 compliant, not 5389). But what a 5389 STUN server? Hopefully, I'm just missing something. But this has been bugging me. --Martin
- [rtcweb] What is consent? Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] What is consent? Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] What is consent? Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] What is consent? Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] What is consent? Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] What is consent? Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] What is consent? Dan Wing
- Re: [rtcweb] What is consent? Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] What is consent? Dan Wing
- Re: [rtcweb] What is consent? Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] What is consent? Lishitao
- Re: [rtcweb] What is consent? Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] What is consent? Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] What is consent? Dan Wing
- Re: [rtcweb] What is consent? Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] What is consent? Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] What is consent? Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] What is consent? Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] What is consent? Eric Rescorla