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Re: [rtcweb] Getting rid of SDP

Sergio Garcia Murillo <sergio.garcia.murillo@gmail.com> Mon, 05 March 2018 20:56 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Getting rid of SDP
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Hi Cullen,

The proposal goes far beyond of getting rid of SDP, but replacing 
DTLS/SRTP with QUICK, modifying ICE and changing all the media stack all 
together. Without entering to discuss the technical merits of it, I find 
it very difficult to shallow that replacing the current w3c api to 
remove the SDP requires such a huge impact on webrtc.

IMHO, the two discussions should be independent, and I am much more 
worried to remove SDP than replacing my whole media stack. Also, as 
already stated on the w3c list, a enough low level api would allow to 
cover both media over dtls/ice/srtp as usual  and media over quic.

Best regards
Sergio

On 05/03/2018 20:43, Cullen Jennings wrote:
> SDP is pretty awful. What we need to do to greatly simplify things is get rid of SDP. The offer answer is really complicated for modern systems that have more uniform capabilities so I would like to get rid of offer answer too. To simplify all the control, I think one needs to also simplify STUN, TURN, ICE, RTP, and SRTP.
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> I wrote a draft outlining that - it is at:
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> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jennings-dispatch-new-media/
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> it is being discussed on the dispatch@ietf.org email list ( you can join at https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dispatch). Glad to get PR at https://github.com/WhatIETF/draft-jennings-dispatch-new-media
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> Love to get feedback in general and also on how this, or parts of it, would be a good way to go for the next version of WebRTC
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> Thanks, Cullen
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