Re: [rtcweb] Security architecture: Making ECDSA mandatory

Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com> Thu, 09 June 2016 17:29 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Security architecture: Making ECDSA mandatory
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I believe it’s in the newly posted -12 version:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rtcweb-security-arch

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> On Jun 09, 2016, at 10:08, Bernard Aboba <bernard.aboba@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> It should be merged. 
> 
> On May 25, 2016, at 03:03, Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no> wrote:
> 
>> In my search for status on ECDSA (we're in the process of switching the Chrome default), I came across this in the current draft:
>> 
>>    All implementations MUST implement DTLS 1.0, with the cipher suite
>>    TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA and the DTLS-SRTP protection
>>    profile SRTP_AES128_CM_HMAC_SHA1_80.  Implementations SHOULD
>>    implement DTLS 1.2 with the TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256
>>    cipher suite.  Implementations SHOULD favor cipher suites which
>>    support PFS over non-PFS cipher suites and GCM over CBC cipher
>>    suites.  [[OPEN ISSUE: Should we require ECDSA?  Waiting for WG
>>    Consensus.]]
>> 
>> 
>> I also found Martin's PR. It's 11 months old, still open.
>> 
>> Can we merge this now?
>> 
>> 
>> On 06/13/2015 12:06 AM, Martin Thomson wrote:
>>> I've opened https://github.com/rtcweb-wg/security-arch/pull/33
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This changes the MTI cipher suites to ECDSA and does a little cleanup
>>> on the corresponding API requirements to more closely match what has
>>> just landed in the W3C specification.
>>> 
>>> We discussed ECDSA and the only concerns raised were with
>>> compatibility.  I've done some testing with other implementations with
>>> no issues, and ECDSA seems to be well supported on all those
>>> hard-to-upgrade PSTN gateways (thanks to Cullen and Ethan for helping
>>> out with checks there and to NIST for creating certification pressure
>>> with FIPS-2).
>>> 
>>> I have an implementation that switches Firefox to ECDSA with P-256 by
>>> default.  It's much, much faster.  
>>> http://bench.cr.yp.to/
>>>  claims that
>>> it's 150 times faster on mobile devices for keygen.
>>> 
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