Re: [rtcweb] WGLC for data channel drafts - sub-protocol usage

Michael Tuexen <Michael.Tuexen@lurchi.franken.de> Mon, 07 July 2014 19:51 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] WGLC for data channel drafts - sub-protocol usage
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On 06 Jul 2014, at 09:55, Christian Groves <Christian.Groves@NTECZONE.COM> wrote:

> The definition of Token is ASCII not UTF-8.
OK, I can change it to ASCII. Any objections?

Best regards
Michael
> 
> Christian
> 
> On 5/07/2014 3:23 AM, Michael Tuexen wrote:
>> On 23 Jun 2014, at 07:46, Christian Groves <Christian.Groves@NTECZONE.COM> wrote:
>> 
>>> Do you need that statement?
>> I guess formally you don't. But having it make it simpler for the reader...
>> 
>> Best regards
>> Michael
>>> [RFC6455] section 11.5 says:
>>> 
>>>   Subprotocol Identifier
>>>      The identifier of the subprotocol, as will be used in the
>>>      |Sec-WebSocket-Protocol| header field registered in Section 11.3.4
>>>      of this specification.  The value must conform to the requirements
>>>      given in item 10 of Section 4.1 of this specification -- namely,
>>>      the value must be a token as defined by RFC 2616 [RFC2616].
>>> 
>>> "Token" is RFC2616 is defined as:
>>>     CHAR           = <any US-ASCII character (octets 0 - 127)>
>>>     token          = 1*<any CHAR except CTLs or separators>
>>> 
>>> Regards, Christian
>>> 
>>> On 12/06/2014 3:24 AM, Christer Holmberg wrote:
>>>> Hi Michael,
>>>> 
>>>> I agree that we need to keep text about the encoding.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Christer
>>>> 
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>> From: Michael Tuexen [Michael.Tuexen@lurchi.franken.de]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 11 June 2014 5:28 PM
>>>> To: Christer Holmberg
>>>> Cc: Ted Hardie; rtcweb@ietf.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [rtcweb] WGLC for data channel drafts - sub-protocol usage
>>>> 
>>>> On 10 Jun 2014, at 21:22, Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> A comment on draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-protocol-06:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Section 5.1 says:
>>>>> 
>>>>> "Protocol: Variable Length (sequence of characters)
>>>>>       The sub-protocol for the channel as a UTF-8 encoded string.  If
>>>>>       this is an empty string the protocol is unspecified.  If it is a
>>>>>       non-empty string, it specifies an protocol registered in the
>>>>>       'WebSocket Subprotocol Name Registry' created in [RFC6455]."
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think "The sub-protocol for the channel as a UTF-8 encoded string." part is a little confusing, because there is no such thing as sub-protocol in DCEP itself (DCEP only uses the WebSocket sub-protocol registry for registering DCEP *protocol* values).
>>>>> 
>>>>> Perhaps we could just remove the sentence, and keep:
>>>>> 
>>>>> "Protocol: Variable Length (sequence of characters)
>>>>>       If this is an empty string the protocol is unspecified.  If it is a
>>>>>       non-empty string, it specifies an protocol registered in the
>>>>>       'WebSocket Subprotocol Name Registry' created in [RFC6455]."
>>>>> 
>>>>> Section 4 gives more information about the usage of the protocol.
>>>> Do you intend to drop the statement about the UTF-8 encoding?
>>>> I think we should keep a statement about the encoding.
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards
>>>> Michael
>>>>> (Alternatively, we could use sub-protocol terminology also in DCEP)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Christer
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: rtcweb [rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org] on behalf of Ted Hardie [ted.ietf@gmail.com]
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 10 June, 2014 9:52 PM
>>>>> To: rtcweb@ietf.org
>>>>> Subject: [rtcweb] WGLC for data channel drafts
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dear WG,
>>>>> 
>>>>> This starts a working group last call for our core Data Channel drafts:
>>>>> 
>>>>> draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-protocol-06.txt
>>>>> draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-channel-10.txt
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please review them in detail, especially for areas which may be of concern to the broader IETF community.  This WGLC will end on June 27, 2014.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ted, Sean, Cullen
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> rtcweb mailing list
>>>>> rtcweb@ietf.org
>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb
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