Re: [rtcweb] Consent freshness - revisiting the RTCP option

Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> Tue, 08 May 2012 22:00 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Consent freshness - revisiting the RTCP option
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On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no> wrote:
> Just because I realized I didnt understand something, I ask.....
>
> We rejected RTCP RR as a consent freshness mechanism because RR is trivial
> to fake.
> But - now we have SRTP as mandatory-to-use, which means that all RTCP RRs
> are integrity protected, origin authenticated and replay protected (do I
> have that right?).
>
> What is the reason why this is not sufficient protection to use RTCP RR as a
> consent freshness mechanism?

This isn't a complete analysis, but if you are using SDES for key management,
then the site knows the SRTCP keys, so I don't *think* SRTCP is buying you
much. I haven't thought through this completely though, so maybe there is
still some additional value.

-Ekr