Re: [rtcweb] path forward on bundle
Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> Fri, 05 October 2012 12:41 UTC
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From: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>
To: "Cullen Jennings (fluffy)" <fluffy@cisco.com>, mmusic WG <mmusic@ietf.org>, Harald Tveit Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no>, Justin Uberti <juberti@google.com>, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>, Bernard Aboba <bernard_aboba@hotmail.com>, Jonathan Lennox <jonathan@vidyo.com>, Randell Jesup <rjesup@mozilla.com>
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] path forward on bundle
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Hi, >I'm trying to figure out how to move forward on bundle stuff. Let me start by summarizing what I think the three proposals are then we can try and sort out pros/cons of each. I think we agree that the goals here is to have something that gets the SDP so >that we can negotiate using less ports. > >I see it as we have three proposed solutions that I will call "a=bundle same port", "a=bundle different port", and "m=bundle". I'll try and describe these below to make sure we are on same page of what the three are then we can try and figurer out >pros/cons of each and what to do. I'll give examples of the SDP offer for each but I tried and make everything simple, I'm going to ignore the RTCP mux and such but I think you can see how that would get added to all the examples. > > >First lets set the baseline of an offer that does not want to multiplex the audio and video on same port > v=0 > o=alice 2890844526 2890844526 IN IP4 host.atlanta.example.com > s= > c=IN IP4 host.atlanta.example.com > t=0 0 > m=audio 49170 RTP/AVP 0 > a=mid:foo > a=rtpmap:0 PCMU/8000 > m=video 49172 RTP/AVP 31 > a=mid:bar > a=rtpmap:31 H261/90000 Correct. >Proposal "a=bundle same port" > v=0 > o=alice 2890844526 2890844526 IN IP4 host.atlanta.example.com > s= > c=IN IP4 host.atlanta.example.com > t=0 0 > a=group:BUNDLE foo bar > m=audio 49170 RTP/AVP 0 > a=mid:foo > a=rtpmap:0 PCMU/8000 > m=video 49170 RTP/AVP 31 > a=mid:bar > a=rtpmap:31 H261/90000 > > In the above example, note that all the m lines for a mid identified in the group:BUNLDE have the same port (49170) Correct. This is what is currently described in draft-bundle. >Proposal "a=bundle different port" > v=0 > o=alice 2890844526 2890844526 IN IP4 host.atlanta.example.com > s= > c=IN IP4 host.atlanta.example.com > t=0 0 > a=group:BUNDLE foo bar > m=audio 49170 RTP/AVP 0 > a=mid:foo > a=rtpmap:0 PCMU/8000 > m=video 49172 RTP/AVP 31 > a=mid:bar > a=rtpmap:31 H261/90000 > In the above example, note that the port numbers are the same as baseline - if you device receiving this offer does not support group:BUNLDE, then this is identical to the baseline. So one m line has a port of 49170 and the other has a different port. > Other than that, it is the same as the "a=bundle same port". The semantics of group:BUNLDE would be defined to be that if the SDP receiver supports BUNDLE and wants to use it, then it places a group:BUNDLE line in the answer and it send all the media > to the mids in the in BUNDLE group to the port number identified for the m-line corresponding to the first mid in the BUNDLE group. In this example, the first mid on the a=group:BUNDLE lines is foo, which has a m line with a port of 49170, so both the > H261 and PCMU (mids foo and bar) would go to port 49170 if the device creating the answer wanted to use BUNDLE. We don't have a draft yet that says exactly this thought it is very close to the one-rtp draft ( and for that matter close to bundle draft ) This is more or less Harald's original proposal. >Proposal "m=bundle" > v=0 > o=alice 2890844526 2890844526 IN IP4 host.atlanta.example.com > s= > c=IN IP4 host.atlanta.example.com > t=0 0 > a=group:BUNDLE foo bar baz > m=audio 49170 RTP/AVP 0 > a=mid:foo > a=rtpmap:0 PCMU/8000 > m=video 49172 RTP/AVP 31 > a=mid:bar > a=rtpmap:31 H261/90000 > m=bundle 10000 RTP/AVP 0 8 97 31 32 > a=mid:baz > a=full-rtpmap:0 audio/PCMU/8000 > a=full-rtpmap:31 video/H261/90000 > > > Note in the above example the SDP above the m=bundle line is pretty much the same as the baseline + the group:BUNDLE line. The m=bundle is new media type that indicates many things are bundled together on port 10000. A device that understood > bundle would know to ignore the m lines corresponding to foo and bar mids and would just use the stuff from the bas mid. Correct. Later today, we are planning to submit an individual draft (ie *not* a new version of draft-bundle) on this alternative, so that people have some text to look at. Regards, Christer
- Re: [rtcweb] path forward on bundle Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] path forward on bundle Harald Alvestrand
- [rtcweb] path forward on bundle Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [rtcweb] path forward on bundle Kaiduan Xie
- Re: [rtcweb] path forward on bundle Cullen Jennings (fluffy)