Re: [rtcweb] Working Group Last Call: JSEP

Peter Thatcher <pthatcher@google.com> Wed, 16 November 2016 02:47 UTC

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From: Peter Thatcher <pthatcher@google.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2016 02:47:18 +0000
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I'm late to the party, but a hardy +1 for removing pranswer from me.

On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 10:36 AM Bernard Aboba <bernard.aboba@gmail.com>
wrote:

> +1.
>
> One of the reasons we added setDirection() was to be able to handle the
> "warm up" case with no recourse to pranswer (as demonstrated in Example 12
> in Section 11.2 as you cite).
>
> Given that, it is hard to motivate an implementation to support pranswer
> (e.g. in the Edge WebRTC 1.0 feature now in Windows Insider Preview, we
> left out support for pranswer).
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Philipp Hancke <fippo@goodadvice.pages.de
> > wrote:
>
> Am 21.10.2016 um 21:25 schrieb Ted Hardie:
>
> The chairs would like to start a working group last call on
> draft-ietf-rtcweb-jset-17 to end on November 9th, 2016, 17:00 KST.
>
> Please review thoroughly, as working through the last comments will be the
> major effort of our working group meeting in Seoul.
>
>
> One question: why is pranswer still in there? The major use-case for this
> seems to be transport warm-up (4.1.7.1) for which I think transceivers are
> the new way as shown in
> http://w3c.github.io/webrtc-pc/#simple-peer-to-peer-example-with-warm-up
>
> pranswer has not seen much traffic on this list. Together with BUNDLE it
> seems to have been broken in Chrome since 2014 if I understand
> https://bugs.chromium.org/p/webrtc/issues/detail?id=3349 correctly. And I
> recall it being broken in 2013 when using DTLS.
>
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