Re: [rtcweb] Proposed text - remote recording use case

Dzonatas Sol <dzonatas@gmail.com> Fri, 09 September 2011 17:19 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Proposed text - remote recording use case
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On 09/09/2011 09:41 AM, Elwell, John wrote:
> On yesterday's call it was agreed to work on text to cover the remote recording use case. Below is text, based on an earlier proposal and subsequent input. I have focused on the main requirement derived from this use case, relating to copying to a different peer connection, and skipped any more detailed requirements concerning possible mixing of the two directions of audio or injecting any tones / announcements.
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> 4.2.yy Remote Session Recording
> In this use case, the web application user wishes to record a real-time communication at a remote third party (e.g., a recording device), such that transmitted and received audio, video or other real-time media are transmitted in real-time to the third party. The third party can perform recording, archiving, retrieval, playback, etc., but can also perform real-time analytics on the media. A typical deployment might be in a contact centre. The web application also sends metadata that gives context to the stored media. The web application will ensure that appropriate indications are given to participants so that they are aware of recording.
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> New requirements:
> Fyy1: The browser MUST be able to send in real-time to a third party media that are being transmitted to and received from remote participants.
>
> Ayy1: The web application MUST be able to ask the browser to transmit in real-time to a third party media that are being transmitted to and received from remote participants.
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> Comments?
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Is there some specific need for the use of the words "third party"? I 
think that should be "modem", yet I know that word doesn't work in 
replace as-is. Maybe extend RFC 2198 to indicate the presence of an 
"audio-out" capable of modulation of SSRC media that MAY record. Does 
that hint on something more fair and reusable?



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