Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions
Gunnar Hellström <gunnar.hellstrom@omnitor.se> Fri, 30 November 2012 08:17 UTC
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions
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On 2012-11-30 04:51, Randell Jesup wrote: > Not so simply; MediaStreams in Firefox currently have a strong idea > that data has a time for display and a duration. This could be worked > around, and might need to for other reasons - but there was no design > goal for carrying non-media data in MediaStreams. Real-time text is to be seen as media. When using RFC 4103 for transport, the samples are usually 300 ms. Usually they should be played asap but smoothed out during the sampling period. If needed they can be synchronized through time stamps with other media. 3GPP TS 26.114 Multimedia Telephony is a good example of a spec treating real-time text as any other media. It is of course a good habit to keep already received real-time text visible for some time. I hope that that does not conflict with the time and duration idea. There is an expired draft telling how that can be done. http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-hellstrom-textpreview-08 That topic is also dealt with very briefly in the presentation standard ITU-T T.140 http://www.itu.int/rec/T-REC-T.140/en /Gunnar
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Richard Shockey
- [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Stefan Hakansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Jim Barnett
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Adam Roach
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Eric Burger
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Dale R. Worley
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Igor Faynberg
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Igor Faynberg
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Adam Roach
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Jim Barnett
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Igor Faynberg
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Salvatore Loreto
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Silvia Pfeiffer
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Olle E. Johansson
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Dale R. Worley
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Adam Roach
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Jim Barnett
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Erik Lagerway
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication requirements for … Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication requirements for … Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication requirements for … Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication requirements for … Göran Eriksson AP
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Silvia Pfeiffer
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication SDP in RTCWEB Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication requirements for … Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication requirements for … Göran Eriksson AP
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication requirements for … Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication requirements for … Göran Eriksson AP
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB session… Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB session… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB session… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB session… Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB session… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB session… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Dale R. Worley
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Dale R. Worley
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Stefan Hakansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Mark Rejhon
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Mark Rejhon
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Mark Rejhon
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Mark Rejhon
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Mark Rejhon
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Richard Shockey
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Kevin Dempsey
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Dale R. Worley
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Matthew Kaufman
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Mark Rejhon
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Matthew Kaufman
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Mark Rejhon
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions BeckW
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Markus.Isomaki
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Eric Burger
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Gunnar Hellström
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- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Gunnar Hellström