Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions -job overview
Gunnar Hellström <gunnar.hellstrom@omnitor.se> Sun, 18 November 2012 19:55 UTC
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions -job overview
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After a rapid browse, this is my view of what needs to be done to specify real-time text in RTCWEB and WebRTC. 1. draft-ietf-rtcweb-overview Make definition of Media to include real-time text Define the short form rtt Add rtt to descriptions in e.g. sections 2.1 and 2.2 non-critical 2. draft-ietf-rtcweb-use-cases-and-requirements add a couple of rtt use cases add requirements for rtt add api requirements for rtt important, initiated 3. draft-nandakumar-rtcweb-sdp add codec description for rtt add sdp for rtt for the use cases important, initiated 4. draft-x-rtcweb-rtt rtt specifics for rtt codec and rtp usage ( take inspiration from draft-ietf-rtcweb-audio ) new needed draft - not initiated 5. draft-ietf-rtcweb-jsep add rtt to API MediaHints clause 6.1.1 add rtt to examples in chapter 7. important 6. draft-ietf-rtcweb-rtpusage mention rtt add rtt to mixer discussion non-critical 7. draft-thomson-rtcweb-api-req mention rtt non-critical 8. draft-aboba-rtcweb-ecrit adjust rtt discussion for emergency calls to current status non critical 9. w3c.webrtc add rtt API, e.g. to Network Stream API important, urgent 10. w3c getusermedia add rtt to GetUserMedia API important, urgent Any more? Any less? /Gunnar On 2012-11-13 10:55, Harald Alvestrand wrote: > On 11/13/2012 09:55 AM, Olle E. Johansson wrote: >> >> 12 nov 2012 kl. 13:15 skrev Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no >> <mailto:harald@alvestrand.no>>: >> >>> I would prefer this to be added as a separate specification, rather >>> than done at this time. >>> The reason being that this should be relatively easy to add on top >>> of the data channel functionality, but will definitely take some >>> time to specify, so should not be on the critical path for this >>> round of specifications. >> T.140 is a codec in the RTP flow and is implemented in Asterisk and >> a couple of Video SIP phones. >> I see no reason to move it to the data channel, that would limit >> interoperability. >> >> Much easier - and faster - to implement in the RTP subsystem as it is >> already covered by SDP offer/answer. >> > Anything is possible, if someone is willing to do it. > > Olle and Gunnar, can you undertake to write a complete specification > for how to use T.140 with RTCWEB, including how it should fit in with > the API specification, and whether or not it supports the needs that > Gunnar has claimed for text services? > > I don't understand T.140 - so I can't do the work. Someone who wants > it should. > > > > _______________________________________________ > rtcweb mailing list > rtcweb@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Richard Shockey
- [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Stefan Hakansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Jim Barnett
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Adam Roach
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Eric Burger
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Dale R. Worley
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Igor Faynberg
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Igor Faynberg
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Adam Roach
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Jim Barnett
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Igor Faynberg
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Salvatore Loreto
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Silvia Pfeiffer
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Olle E. Johansson
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Dale R. Worley
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Adam Roach
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Jim Barnett
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Erik Lagerway
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication requirements for … Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication requirements for … Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication requirements for … Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication requirements for … Göran Eriksson AP
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Silvia Pfeiffer
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication SDP in RTCWEB Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication requirements for … Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication requirements for … Göran Eriksson AP
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication requirements for … Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication requirements for … Göran Eriksson AP
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB session… Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB session… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB session… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB session… Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB session… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB session… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Dale R. Worley
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Dale R. Worley
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Stefan Hakansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Mark Rejhon
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Mark Rejhon
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Mark Rejhon
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Mark Rejhon
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Mark Rejhon
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Richard Shockey
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Kevin Dempsey
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Dale R. Worley
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Matthew Kaufman
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Mark Rejhon
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Matthew Kaufman
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Mark Rejhon
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions BeckW
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Markus.Isomaki
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Eric Burger
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Gunnar Hellström
- [rtcweb] Fwd: Text communication in RTCWEB sessio… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] Text communication in RTCWEB sessions Gunnar Hellström