Re: [rtcweb] Glare in draft-roach-rtcweb-glareless-add-00

Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@aliax.net> Mon, 17 June 2013 12:09 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Glare in draft-roach-rtcweb-glareless-add-00
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2013/6/17 Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>;:
> I do, however, realize that it would require an update to 3261 and/or 3264,
> as Adam also indicated. But, if we end up needing a mechanism where only one
> endpoint is allowed to send SDP Offers,

> I really think we need to ask ourselves whether SDP O/A is the right mechanism to begin with :)

Well, after two years we still don't know how to use SDP to feature
and satisfy WebRTC requirements (this happens when a document format
is decided before spec/protocol/API requirements). So... not, SDP O/A
is not the right mechanism for WebRTC.



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